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October 24, 2003 11:21:56 PM

I am trying to build up a new system UNDER $200. I am not sure it that would be possible but I am thinking even a system with the lowest componets would be is atleast twice at fast as my old one. I already bought a new HD for my old comp and spare vid card. This what my current system is:

Dell Demension 4100
866 mhz
384 MB PC-133 sdram
120 GB seagate HD (the new one i just bough)
40 GB HD
CD-RW and CD-rom

I need to get new CPU, motherboard (hopefully with sound and lan), DDR memory, case, powersupply and maybe dvd drive or new CD-RW. And I really need it under $200 total WITH shipping otherwise I will just have to wait to get new comp. Any suggestion for what part to buy for them?
October 24, 2003 11:47:45 PM

i dont think that is possible my friend, thats almost like asking for perpetual motion:) 

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October 25, 2003 12:02:07 AM

Biostar M7NCD-Pro (Socket-A / NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400) ~$50
AMD ATHLON XP 1700+ ~$42
~$50-60 mem. (512 cheap or 256 better)
~$30-40 for case+PSU (shop around you can get an okish one), or use your old case.

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October 25, 2003 12:08:02 AM

I'm afraid any remotely respectable motherboard and cpu will take $130 of that, together. $48 for 256mb pc2100 ram, makes $180... $20 left for case, power supply, and optical drive.. doh!
October 25, 2003 12:45:21 AM

snorkius's suggestion look good for the MB and cpu. I had a look at new egg and some cheap bufflo/Geil/Kingmax 256 MB DDR 333 memory for $40 that seems good enough. Leaves me with a good $70 for a case and PS. Shouldn't be too hard to find that.
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October 25, 2003 10:06:22 AM

Somone else posted here Fry carries a ECS K7S5E + Athlon 2400+ for $89 or so. The K7SE board will take your SDRAM (though it will be slower than with DDR), leaving you with $111 for PSU+case+optical drive.

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October 25, 2003 10:26:51 AM

Ummm, Just so you know. The Biostar M7NCD Pro is only in the $50 range *AFTER* a $15 mail-in-rebate.

My suggestion from newegg:
Shuttle AN35N Ultra Mobo (Dual Channel DDR, Nforce2, 8x AGP, Lan) $60.00
Athlon XP 2000+ CPU (1.67 ghz) $67.00
Buffalo Technology 256mb PC2700 DDR Ram $41.00
Foxconn Super Case PC-146 w/ 400w PSU $42.00
Total: $210.00 w/ S&H included

*These are all new and retail versions. You can buy a cheaper CPU, but you'll pay more once you include buying a heatsink and fan. This is just a hair over what you want to spin, but the extra $10 will be well worth it. Later on add you another 256 PC2700 BT Ram chip and a video card and you'll have a decently ok system.

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October 25, 2003 10:48:20 AM

I've read in a lot of places that the 1700 is a great OC'er, but if you don't plan on OC than get a higher model number. I'm not sure which one is better Shuttle or Biostar?

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October 25, 2003 4:01:10 PM

Shuttle is light years ahead of Biostar.
-Brett
October 25, 2003 4:10:03 PM

I always go with Asus or Abit anyway. (Maybe DFI next time?)

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October 25, 2003 4:34:17 PM

lets see. you can get an asus nforce board from newegg for 65 bucks, its a mini atx. ive used it in my entertainment comp for almost a year now, works great.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit...

if you dont want the integrated geforce 2 mx you could go for this board. ive got no experience with this board maybe some one else can shed some light on it.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit...

should be able to find a retail xp 1700 for about 50 bucks.

now you can skimp on ram now and just get 256 for 50 bucks

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit...

or you can just go for 512 now

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit...

as for the case and power supply, you could find somthing for about 40 bucks i would say. with an ok power supply.

that puts you at about 200 without shipping. better come up with some more cash if you want that thing now.

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October 25, 2003 4:45:07 PM

You have to go refurb and take your chances (luckily, it's not as big a gamble as a lot of people will lead you to believe). Go on NewEgg and click refurbished items. Here's some recommendations

MB- REFURBISHED: Gigabyte GA-7N400-L $49
CPU- AMD Athlon XP 1900+/266 FSB Processor CPU - OEM $52
CPU Cooler- Speeze FalconRock CPU Fan Model 5F286B $14
Memory- CORSAIR MEMORY 256MB VALUE SELECT. DDR RAM $44.25
Case- Codegen Case Model L-6042-1-S2F With 400W Power $39.00
Total- $198.25

No CD-RW, but hey, what can you expect for $200. You probably oughta look into getting another 256mb of memory before getting a CD-RW, too.
-Brett
October 25, 2003 4:54:01 PM

The 1700+ is cheaper new, and you can easily OC it to above 1900 levels.

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October 25, 2003 5:24:37 PM

$39 for case + psu? You're just asking for instability and failure.

I have learned the hard way that getting a quality PSU is one of the most important parts of building a computer. You'll probably be looking at spending a minimum of $30-$40 for just the PSU.

As for the main poster, you really should save a little more money and spend more for a computer system. An extra $100 would go a long way.

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October 25, 2003 5:35:18 PM

I agree, there are few things worse than a bad PSU. I have had a couple of Codegens in my day. While they are not Fortron or Antec quality, they are solid enough to get him by with the components he'll be running, especially since this one is 400 watts.

Also, I noticed that the 1700+ isn't in stock (NewEgg) at the moment and the 1800+ is running the same as the 1900+.

The guy said $200 and he's getting really a pretty good setup for that money.
-Brett
October 26, 2003 1:03:24 AM

i agree, i have been the "budget" route way too many times, too many subpar products and problems with compatability, oh sure i EVENTUALLY got the conflicts sorted out....(many endless nights up till 2 am, wife hollering for me to come to bed, dog whining to go out, etc......lol!) spend an extra 100 bucks or so and go with quality not cheap. old saying is "you get what you pay for" very very true!

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October 26, 2003 5:00:54 PM

My currenty system is instable as hell. It likes to crash every 1 or 2 hours. I can't handle the stuff I do on it and I really probably should get a new comp. I don't believe it could be any more instable than by old one. Getting all the info here is the system I decided on.

<A HREF="http://www.nexcomdirect.com/itemdesc.asp?CartId=14789-A..." target="_new">SHUTTLE AN35N400 NFORCE2 MB for $56</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=1..." target="_new">AMD 2100 XP retail for $67</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=2..." target="_new">CORSAIR MEMORY 256MB DDR 333 for $45</A>
<A HREF="http://htthttp://www.coolerexpress.com/new305sercas.html" target="_new">Enermax 305 Series Case w/ Windows P4 350w Power for $57</A>

Total $225

This is the other stuff I will add to it:

120 gb 7200 rpm HD
Geforce MX 440 64 MB vid card

Total is a bit over 200 but I think those parts are pretty good. What do you guys think?
October 26, 2003 5:46:29 PM

I didn't even see that Shuttle board. It oughta work well for you. One thing, spend a buck more and get the PC3200 or spend $3 more and get the Geil Golden Dragon (better timings). For your next upgrade, I would suggest 256mb more memory.
-Brett
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