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October 30, 2003 4:33:36 PM

the question is whats the better performing athlon cpu in regards to the core. i have seen several graphs showing performance of many cpus but never the same speed cpu with different cores. i want the barton core cpu at 2600 but i think i remember reading somewhere that the barton core was actually kind of a step back. anyway, let me know what any of you have discovered. thanks
October 30, 2003 5:39:04 PM

The Barton core is clocked lower than a Thoroughbred with an equivalent part number. AMD raised the part numbers of the Bartons based on the extra cache making that much of a performance difference.

The reality however is that many applications benefit more from the higher clock speed of the Thoroughbred than from the extra cache of the Barton when both CPUs are set to the same frontside bus frequency.

AMD however knows this and thus made the Thoroughbreds with equal rating numbers very sparse. Because those TBreds are difficult to find it means that in general you can simply trust the product rating numbers as an indication of performance. It's not always true for every piece of software out there, but in a general sense it's not bad.

Otherwise I personally lean towards the higher clockspeed of a Thoroughbred over the extra cache of the Barton if you're keeping a CPU at stock speeds.

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October 30, 2003 5:57:22 PM

I agree. I do know that THG has the benchmaks somewhere so you can see for yourself. If you are gamming I don't think there is much difference but if you are decoding type apps, you would benefit from the higher clock speeds from the T Bred's. If you are an O clocker, I do belive that the Bartons OC much better. Good Luck.

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October 30, 2003 6:33:57 PM

I think that you're wrong as to which core OC's better. My TBred was a 1800+(1.53G) and is running @ 2.3G--just over a 50% increase by overclocking. To do that with a Barton, you'd start with a 2500+ (1.83) and 150% would be 2.745. To my knowledge that would be really, really high for a Barton.

Maybe what you meant to say was that an overclocked Barton outperforms an OC'd TBred? That answer comes down to cache and clock speed again.

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October 31, 2003 1:31:39 AM

what you are saying doesn't sound right to me
What's FSB are you running?
October 31, 2003 12:46:54 PM

WOW! Thats awsome! Ok, I stand corrected.

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October 31, 2003 11:20:33 PM

I'm running @ 11.5x200. What part doesn't sound right? Yes I have top notch air cooling and vcore is 1.8 and not all TBreds will do this, but mine does.

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