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gareis   11-03-2003 at 07:58:05 PM

The title says it all, I think.

I'm preparing to build a computer--my first ever--and am wondering what processor to get. Mainly, I'm considering a Celeron 2.6GHz versus an Athlon 2800. This will be put to gaming and word processing purposes, mainly. Which is better? Is there a third that I should consider?

Thank you.

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HardWareBoss   11-03-2003 at 08:01:43 PM
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What is your price range?

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Coyote   11-03-2003 at 08:13:25 PM
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Miser + gaming = AMD 2500+ Barton cpu. I'm a miser who enjoys gaming. My recent research prompted me to purchase the AMD 2500+ aka Barton cpu. They are about $90. It hasn't arrived yet so I can't really comment further



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SonComet   11-03-2003 at 08:46:21 PM
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Whatever you do, don't get a celeron. The athlon xp2800 would be much better of the two.

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gareis   11-03-2003 at 11:38:30 PM
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As for price range, I'd not spend over $200. I can get an Athlon 2700 for a bit over $100, but that's just the CPU, not the mobo. I was looking at an nForce 2, which costs another $50.

You recommended a 2500 Barton, Coyote? Is that a souped-up 2500?

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Goof   11-04-2003 at 01:31:31 AM
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There are 4 different "cores" used in the Athlon XP processors - 'Palamino'; 'Thoroughbred A'; 'Thoroughbred B'; and 'Barton'.

The 'Barton' Core is the last Socket A processor to be released. The 2500+ uses this core, which has several advantages over the older ones, namely larger cache, perhaps some others i'm not aware of.

The 2500+ is a strong performer.
Oh, and btw, does that $200 include a video card and RAM? B/c if it does, u'll probably be pushing it a little.

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gareis   11-04-2003 at 02:38:44 AM
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So any Athlon XP numbered 2500 and over is sure to have a Barton core?

The $200 figure doesn't include video card and RAM, just the CPU and mobo.

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Spitfire_x86   11-04-2003 at 02:40:20 AM
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Buy AXP 2500+ if you want to overclock. If you don't, then buy 2700+. At stock speed, 2700+ will be always better, can be much better depending on application (due to much higher clockspeed)

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Goof   11-04-2003 at 02:43:20 AM
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That's where it gets confusing.
Off the top of my head, the 2500, 2700 3000 and 3200 are barton cores, while the 2600 and 2800 aren't (they are thoroughbred 'b' cores).

We suggest the 2500 because it provides generally the best performance for your dollar. If you have extra cash and can afford it, buy the 2700+

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justaguy   11-05-2003 at 05:40:23 PM
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Any reliable PC shop or website will tell you which core you're getting. If you see pictures, the Barton core is more rectangular than the Thoroughbred cores. 2500 Barton is easily overclocked to higher speeds if your BIOS allows.

Where there's a will, there's a way-even when it comes to screwing up.

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