OEM software purchases

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

It was discussed recently, but now there's yeat another change to the rules
for selling oem software.

No more "non-peripheral hardware device" with the software.

The new rules say the software can be sold on its own. It may take a while
for stores to go through their stock of mouse-and-software bundles, but you
should be seeing the standalone stuff soon. New sticker, too, for generic
oem software.

Well, that's another annoying hurdle dispensed with. Wonder what else they
have up their sleeves.

--
D.Currie
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    >

    Maybe, but I haven't looked for one. I got the info in an email from MS and
    it said "as of Sept." and the new version CDs are available at my
    distributor today. Other system builders can probably confirm it.
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    It came from the MS System Builder's page.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    >
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Hey Doug, I went through 4 pages of "MS System Builders page and couldn't
    find any wording that explained this post topic. Can you give us a path to
    that particular page or line item " Thanks
    Redwagon...

    "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

    > It came from the MS System Builder's page.
    >
    > --
    > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    > http://www.dougknox.com
    > --------------------------------
    > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    > --------------------------------
    > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >
    > "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    > >
    >
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentPage.aspx?pageid=555857

    Note: You need to be registered with the system builder site to access the above link.

    Prominent change: The new licensing allows for unopened OEM packs to be distributed to other "system builders" without additional hardware. An end user, who is actually building their own PC, is considered a system builder, as well.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "REDWAGON" <REDWAGON@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:627A118F-2C03-45E4-90C9-D8929295E3DD@microsoft.com...
    > Hey Doug, I went through 4 pages of "MS System Builders page and couldn't
    > find any wording that explained this post topic. Can you give us a path to
    > that particular page or line item " Thanks
    > Redwagon...
    >
    > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
    >
    >> It came from the MS System Builder's page.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    >> http://www.dougknox.com
    >> --------------------------------
    >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    >> --------------------------------
    >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >>
    >> "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >> > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    >> >
    >>
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    And there are single packs as opposed to the three-packs, which was the
    smallest package quantity before.


    "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:%23lgn472rFHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentPage.aspx?pageid=555857

    Note: You need to be registered with the system builder site to access the
    above link.

    Prominent change: The new licensing allows for unopened OEM packs to be
    distributed to other "system builders" without additional hardware. An end
    user, who is actually building their own PC, is considered a system builder,
    as well.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "REDWAGON" <REDWAGON@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:627A118F-2C03-45E4-90C9-D8929295E3DD@microsoft.com...
    > Hey Doug, I went through 4 pages of "MS System Builders page and couldn't
    > find any wording that explained this post topic. Can you give us a path to
    > that particular page or line item " Thanks
    > Redwagon...
    >
    > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
    >
    >> It came from the MS System Builder's page.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    >> Display\Security
    >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    >> http://www.dougknox.com
    >> --------------------------------
    >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    >> --------------------------------
    >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >>
    >> "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >> > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    >> >
    >>
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    New Rule:

    "OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and
    server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended
    for distribution to end users. Unless the end user is actually assembling
    his/her own PC, in which case, that end user is considered a system builder
    as well."

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP - Shell/User
    Microsoft Newsgroups

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "REDWAGON" wrote:

    | Hey Doug, I went through 4 pages of "MS System Builders page and couldn't
    | find any wording that explained this post topic. Can you give us a path to
    | that particular page or line item " Thanks
    | Redwagon...
    |
    | "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
    |
    | > It came from the MS System Builder's page.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    | > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    | > http://www.dougknox.com
    | > --------------------------------
    | > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    | > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    | > --------------------------------
    | > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    | > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    | >
    | > "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    | > > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    | > >
    | >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    There has been "rumours" for years that Microsoft was going to "convert"
    Windows into modules. You first buy base Windows and then your would need
    to purchase the other modules (i.e.: Internet access, email, second hard
    drive, burning).

    Also, there's been "rumblings" that Windows update was going to the
    "subscription" service where you would need to pay a charge.


    "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3npj0hF2ol55U1@individual.net...
    > It was discussed recently, but now there's yeat another change to the
    > rules for selling oem software.
    >
    > No more "non-peripheral hardware device" with the software.
    >
    > The new rules say the software can be sold on its own. It may take a while
    > for stores to go through their stock of mouse-and-software bundles, but
    > you should be seeing the standalone stuff soon. New sticker, too, for
    > generic oem software.
    >
    > Well, that's another annoying hurdle dispensed with. Wonder what else they
    > have up their sleeves.
    >
    > --
    > D.Currie
    >
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    I bought a single pack back in 2003 with no hardware.

    Alias

    "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote

    > And there are single packs as opposed to the three-packs, which was the
    > smallest package quantity before.
    >
    >
    > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
    > news:%23lgn472rFHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    > http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentPage.aspx?pageid=555857
    >
    > Note: You need to be registered with the system builder site to access the
    > above link.
    >
    > Prominent change: The new licensing allows for unopened OEM packs to be
    > distributed to other "system builders" without additional hardware. An
    > end user, who is actually building their own PC, is considered a system
    > builder, as well.
    >
    > --
    > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    > Display\Security
    > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    > http://www.dougknox.com
    > --------------------------------
    > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    > --------------------------------
    > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >
    > "REDWAGON" <REDWAGON@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:627A118F-2C03-45E4-90C9-D8929295E3DD@microsoft.com...
    >> Hey Doug, I went through 4 pages of "MS System Builders page and couldn't
    >> find any wording that explained this post topic. Can you give us a path
    >> to
    >> that particular page or line item " Thanks
    >> Redwagon...
    >>
    >> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
    >>
    >>> It came from the MS System Builder's page.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    >>> Display\Security
    >>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    >>> http://www.dougknox.com
    >>> --------------------------------
    >>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    >>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    >>> --------------------------------
    >>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    >>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >>>
    >>> "Neobyte" <neobyte@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:1125619511.684664.277360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>> > Any verifying web-linkage to support this statement?
    >>> >
    >>>
    >
    >
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Alias wrote:
    > I bought a single pack back in 2003 with no hardware.

    Spain and other countries that forced MS to sell OEM without hardware
    don't count! ;-)

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  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:50:06 +0200, "Alias"
    <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:

    >The heat problems have been solved. Try to keep up.

    They didn't post that info in a mac group.

    Greg Ro
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    On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:00:41 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
    <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

    > New Rule:
    >
    >"OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and
    >server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended
    >for distribution to end users. Unless the end user is actually assembling
    >his/her own PC, in which case, that end user is considered a system builder
    >as well."


    Now, I am even more confused. Do that mean walmart can no longer
    sell the oem copies with just a mouse and you have to purchase it
    through Microsoft? Are they just talking about the packs (More the 1
    oem)

    What about the single oem version?


    Greg Ro
  13. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    such as yourself.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP - Shell/User
    Microsoft Newsgroups

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Greg Ro" wrote:

    | Now, I am even more confused. Do that mean walmart can no longer
    | sell the oem copies with just a mouse and you have to purchase it
    | through Microsoft? Are they just talking about the packs (More the 1
    | oem)
    |
    | What about the single oem version?

    | Greg Ro
  14. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 09:00:41 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
    <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

    > New Rule:
    >
    >"OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and
    >server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended
    >for distribution to end users. Unless the end user is actually assembling
    >his/her own PC, in which case, that end user is considered a system builder
    >as well."


    You didn't read my question correctly Carey.
    This new policy sounds like it applies to multi pack oem not to a
    single oem version.

    By plugging a modem into a pc slot-I am a system builder.


    Greg Ro
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    Yves Leclerc wrote:
    >
    > There has been "rumours" for years that Microsoft was going to "convert"

    I always trusted rumours for all my life. Then, I also like to spread
    them among my frineds and business acquientances.
  16. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
    > You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    > and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    > designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    > such as yourself.

    Can this idiot read and comprehend the quote he gave?

    End users that build their own computers can be legally sold OEM without
    hardware.

    Of course this now calls into question of what "assembling his/her own
    PC" means. Does it mean buying all new components? Can it mean taking
    some old and some new components and assembling?

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  17. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    such as yourself.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP - Shell/User
    Microsoft Newsgroups

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Greg Ro" wrote:

    | You didn't read my question correctly Carey.
    | This new policy sounds like it applies to multi pack oem not to a
    | single oem version.
    |
    | By plugging a modem into a pc slot-I am a system builder.
    |
    | Greg Ro
  18. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    On Friday 02 September 2005 07:05 am, Yves Leclerc had this to say in
    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

    > There has been "rumours" for years that Microsoft was going to "convert"
    > Windows into modules. You first buy base Windows and then your would need
    > to purchase the other modules (i.e.: Internet access, email, second hard
    > drive, burning).
    >
    > Also, there's been "rumblings" that Windows update was going to the
    > "subscription" service where you would need to pay a charge.
    >
    I'm sure that greedy corporation would love to go to a pay-as-you-use
    system. It's obviously not enough to be the "richest man in the world" for
    Mr. Gate$. It's spelled GREED.


    --
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  19. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
    > You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    > and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    > designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    > such as yourself.

    Douchbagsezwa?

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  20. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Then it should be illegal to sell to end users, the same as it is illegal
    to sell booze to a minor.

    --
    get a brain

    "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:u07fD0CsFHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    > You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    > and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    > designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    > such as yourself.
    >
    > --
    > Carey Frisch
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows XP - Shell/User
    > Microsoft Newsgroups
    >
    > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > "Greg Ro" wrote:
    >
    > | Now, I am even more confused. Do that mean walmart can no longer
    > | sell the oem copies with just a mouse and you have to purchase it
    > | through Microsoft? Are they just talking about the packs (More the 1
    > | oem)
    > |
    > | What about the single oem version?
    >
    > | Greg Ro
  21. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 09:44:04 -0700, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
    <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

    >OEM System Builder Packaging, Licensing, and COA Changes
    >
    >Frequently Asked Questions:
    >
    >Why is Microsoft making these changes?
    >
    >System builders have been asking us for a 1-pack for quite some time.
    >Creation of the 1-pack has given us the opportunity to make changes which
    >simplify the distribution requirements of the OEM system builder license.
    >
    >When will these changes take place?
    >
    >All changes – 1-pack, new system builder license, and new system builder COA
    >label - will occur in the August 2005 timeframe.
    >
    >Why did you take away the ability to distribute Windows XP with
    >non-peripheral hardware?
    >
    >In the previous license, while individual Windows XP licenses that were part
    >of the 3-pack could be distributed to other system builders with
    >non-peripheral hardware, the recordkeeping requirements when distributing in
    >this manner were significant. For example, the distributing system builder
    >had to ensure the acquiring system builder’s acceptance of the license and
    >had to keep records of any such distribution to show that this requirement
    >was met. With the availability of the 1-pack, a system builder can order in
    >units of one and redistribute that unopened 1-pack to another system builder
    >without any hardware, non-peripheral or other, thus eliminating the need for
    >this non-peripheral language. A system builder who acquires the unopened
    >1-pack can clearly see and be bound by the break-the-seal agreement.
    >
    >Can I distribute an unopened 1-pack to an end-user?
    >
    >OEM system builder software is designed for OEM system builders for
    >preinstallation on new PCs. The outside of the pack states “Intended for PC
    >and server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY”. While unopened packs can be
    >distributed to other system builders, they are not intended for end-users. If
    >an end-user opens the pack, they are bound by the break-the-seal agreement
    >which requires them to preinstall the product using the OPK, support the
    >product, and other requirements not appropriate for an end-user who does not
    >have the skills and technical knowledge of a system builder. An exception to
    >this is when the end-user is actually assembling their own PC, in which case,
    >that end user is considered a system builder as well, under the definition in
    >the OEM system builder license agreement.
    >
    >Why do we now have to preinstall applications like Microsoft Office?
    >
    >We wanted to make the OEM System Builder license consistent in the
    >preinstallation requirements for Windows XP and application products like
    >Office. In addition, we wanted to ensure the best possible out-of-box
    >experience for end users with regard to applications such as Office, which we
    >believe will be achieved when Office is preinstalled onto that new PC.
    >
    >Why does the 1-pack look just like the 3-pack? (note this question will not
    >be applicable for North America where the 1-pack packaging will be different
    >than the rest of the world)?
    >
    >In the interest of time and in order to get the 1-pack out in the August
    >timeframe, we made the decision to maintain the existing 3-pack packaging. We
    >have explored many alternatives and to date the most cost effective and
    >readily available solution was the 2-inch box. We are continuing to evaluate
    >packaging options and are working on smaller box options.
    >
    >Why isn’t the OPK included in the 1-pack? How do we get the OPK?
    >
    >Because a system builder needs only one copy of the OPK, which can be
    >acquired via the 3-pack, we heard feedback that including the OPK in every
    >1-pack was wasteful and unnecessary because most system builders already had
    >an OPK. The OPK will continue to be included in every 3-pack and we are
    >looking into other ways for system builders to obtain an OPK.
    >
    >What do we do with existing inventory of product with the “old” OEM System
    >Builder License and/or COA label?
    >
    >We realize there will be an overlap period between licenses and both license
    >types will be in the market for some overlapped period of time. If you are
    >carrying inventory of OEM
    >System Builder product with the former license agreement/COA, those license
    >agreement terms and conditions will be in effect until you distribute the
    >product. As you order new
    >inventory with the “new” license, the new license terms and conditions will
    >be in effect.
    >You can continue to distribute any inventory of existing product once the
    >new license is out – we do not expect you to replace or exchange your
    >existing inventory of product with the “former” license agreement.
    >Why are you changing the COA label?
    >We are changing the OEM system builder COA label to help differentiate it
    >from the COA
    >label that is included on direct OEM software. We have found that COAs from
    >the direct OEM channel are often distributed illegally to the broader
    >channel. With this new COA, you and your customers will be able to
    >differentiate OEM system builder product. This is part of our continuing
    >effort to help curb piracy and counterfeiting.
    >What are the territory restrictions in the new license? Why did you add these?
    >Section 3.2 of the new license addresses export restrictions and states the
    >following:
    >3.2 You may only distribute this package, individual software licenses and
    >hardware units within the territory described at
    >http://microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/territory. You acknowledge and agree that
    >you will not export this package to locations outside of this territory.
    >We added this language to the agreement because we have been seeing a
    >significant amount of English OEM system builder product, designated for
    >distribution in one country, show up in another country, leading to
    >cross-border issues.
    >
    >I’m a PC refurbisher. Can I preinstall OEM System Builder software on the
    >systems I refurbish?
    >
    >Yes, if you are refurbishing a machine you can preinstall OEM system builder
    >software onto that system. Please note that software distribution would be
    >subject to the distribution requirements documented in section 4 of the OEM
    >system builder license.
    >
    >Where can I go for more information?
    >
    >Please visit www.microsoft.com/oem/licensechanges or
    >http://oem.microsoft.com/licensechanges (registration required) for more
    >information.

    If the above is actually the case. People are going to get ticked,
    That won't be able to reinstall the operating system. (I always do
    that to get rid of the unnecessary stuff).

    Greg Ro
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    "Frank" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote in message
    news:usTDDtJsFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > Then it should be illegal to sell to end users, the same as it is illegal
    > to sell booze to a minor.
    >
    > --
    > get a brain
    >
    > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote

    >> You need to purchase a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP
    >> and totally forget about OEM versions! OEM versions were
    >> designed strictly for "System Builders" and not "End Users"
    >> such as yourself.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Carey Frisch

    Why do you lie? Just curious, do you even know you are lying? OEMs are sold
    to the general public/end users all over the world. I've bought three, two
    for new computers and one for an HP that was bought in 2000. This is an
    irrevocable fact. The OP might have a case to sue your sorry ass for lying
    in order to get the OP to spend more money than necessary and doing it as an
    MVP.

    Alias

    >> Microsoft MVP
    >> Windows XP - Shell/User
    >> Microsoft Newsgroups
    >>
    >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> "Greg Ro" wrote:
    >>
    >> | Now, I am even more confused. Do that mean walmart can no longer
    >> | sell the oem copies with just a mouse and you have to purchase it
    >> | through Microsoft? Are they just talking about the packs (More the 1
    >> | oem)
    >> |
    >> | What about the single oem version?
    >>
    >> | Greg Ro
    >
    >
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