HP has a Athlon XP 3200 at 2.33 ghz 333FSB!

[Unseen]

I just saw an article on the inquierer about it: <A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11347" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11347</A>. I just went to the HP business site and found they did have 2.33 ghz athlon xp when you go to customize! It kind of usual that is has only 333 FSB and that its not released to the public. I am sure more ppl would buy if they release it instead of just leaving it to HP! I wonder if AMD is could to make 400 FSB 2.33 ghz and maybe realse at Athlon xp 3400?

 

[Crashman]

Nope, they couldn't make a 400 bus 2.33ghz CPU.

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[lhgpoobaa]

Actually that would be real good for me, as ive only got a KT333 mobo that only supports 166fsb.

Course they probably chose a 166fsb chip so they can use cheaper PC2700 ram with it.

And the performance difference isnt all that great.

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[Spitfire_x86]

Since it runs at higher clockspeed, I think it will perform on par with P4 3.0C GHz

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[SoDNighthawk]

The Barton Athlon XP 3000+ is 333MHz and the Barton Athlon 3200+ is 400MHz.

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[Vapor]

Yeah, but what he's saying is that HP has a seemingly exclusive product that is, in fact, a 333FSB chip named as a 3200+ but is clocked at 2.33GHz instead of 2.2GHz with a 400FSB as all other 3200+s are named. It can utilize cheaper PC2700 RAM, which might be why HP is using/selling it.

Damn Rambus.

 

[tlaughrey]

The Barton Athlon XP 3000+ is 333MHz and the Barton Athlon 3200+ is 400MHz.

There is also a 400MHz bus version of the Barton 3000+, which I have.

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[SoDNighthawk]

Yes you are correct that is exactly what it sounded like, the problem is AMD never posted that CPU ever existed and even playing along with what HP say's it is still very hard to understand where this UFO/CPU came from.
I mean AMD would have to have a production line to assemble the chips unless they slightly mod them after baking.
You would think they would advertise in accordance with HP to make the product sell for both companies and no one has heard more then a hoot accept for this post on the topic.
Unless one of the other Hardware guys has ?
It is not uncommon for bastardized material to come out of amalgamations between to separate companies.

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[SoDNighthawk]

How could I find one ? The link I posted to Cyber PC in my area knows nothing of this chip a AMD Athlon 3000+ with a 400MHz FSB.
In fact the manual for the supporting motherboard from ASUS states that the board is ready for a minimum CPU of 3000+ @ 333MHz and then the 3200+ @ 400MHz.
If you could tell me where you purchased this chip I would like to contact them. It would be cheaper then the 3200+ @ 400MHz.
Our store data sheets and any online look at Asustek computers or AMD does not show this CPU available.
It must be a hybrid CPU and I at first presumed you built your own P.C but second guessing myself I know must assume that you purchased your PC and it is a Clone. This could explain where this bastardized CPU is coming from.
Or....the makers of the clones sold as a Gateway or HP machine could simply have the BIOS set-up to run the 3000+ 333MHz CPU slightly overclocked therefore revealing it at the desktop at a 400MHz rating. This is more likely the more I think about it because AMD can not confirm the building of any 3000+ CPU's at 400MHz.

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[shadus]

> Since it runs at higher clockspeed, I think it will
> perform on par with P4 3.0C GHz

I seriously doubt it.

The current 3200+ barely performs on par with a 2.8c and a 3.0c blows it outta the water... and that's at 200mhz (400). Even with the increased mhz I don't think it could hold it's own.

Shadus

 

[shadus]

Good god you're a dipsh!t. Standard warning, ignore this idiot, he has no clue what he's talking about as usual.

Shadus

 

[SoDNighthawk]

Shadus was born a dearest comrade and cant figure it out. THe guy is clueless.

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[shadus]

This coming from the moron who doesn't understand bus speed, the difference between a 5950 ultra and a 9800 pro, and who's under the deluded belief that a 2800+ will outperform a p4 3.2c when both are configured correctly. rofl. dearest comrade? Are you 9 or 10? How would my sexual orientation affect my knowledge of computers?

Shadus

 

[SoDNighthawk]

Because unless you pull the cock out of your mouth no one is ever going to understand you.
Further more Shadus the only thing you post on here is when you agree to something someone else has posted because you don't know what a PC is from a box of rocks.
I also see you stopped posting that prissy little Intel chip you have for system specs.
Go back to school so you can at least earn 50 grand a year shadus at least you will be a quarter of the way into my salary range.

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[shadus]

A quick lesson in appearing to be an adult when you aren't... Adults don't generally run around calling other people "dearest comrade" or think that it's derogatory to the persons credability or intelligence if they do. That is something pre-teen children do, so like I said, 9 or 10? Maybe I'd even believe up to 12... although I have serious doubts there. Your "cock out of your mouth" comment is along the same lines. Grow up.

If I agree with something I say so, if I disagree I say so, if someone asks a question and no one has answered it in a manor I feel is complete or adaquete I answer it also. If you post and it's the usual bs drival that has no semblance to anything remotely useful or truthful I make sure to post something about it so any complete newbies who don't have the knowledge to make an informed choice don't take what you are saying as gospel.

Uh... stop posting what prissy little intel chip? My sig has *never* included a system. If you are talking about a system I've recommended (like a 2.6c p4) if it isn't posted in response to someone else it is probally because that persons apparent primary need appeared to be price to performance (where AXP's rule at... Celeron's can't compete with an AXP and P4's are a high-middle, high end configuration because of price.)

I already make better than 50k a year big guy, it's not real hard in the computer industry... and that doesn't include computer repair and building that I do. Hell I don't know a sysadmin or netadmin who has 10+ years of experience in the industry that doesn't make in excess of 50k a year. Last but not least, what does salary have to do with technical knowledge? The IT manager makes more than me here, but it doesn't mean he knows as much about current technology and he freely admits it about several of us that work for him directly.

Shadus

 

[SJJM]

I don't believe that you make $200,000. I think your full of sh!t on that. I agree with Shadus, you do say things that are wrong all the time. I don't believe that you have very much knowledge in computer hardware(from what I have seen of your post).

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[Vapor]

The multiplier might have been changed from 11 to 10(.5). I would doubt that HP or Gateway would OC a 3000+ by 20% to get the 400FSB, or they might have a REALLY expensive and really short warranty.

Damn Rambus.

 

[Vapor]

Maybe they buy 2800s or 3000s or 2600s or 2500s and lock the multiplier on the board to 14 (14x166.6[recursive]MHz=2.33GHz). This would make sense because companies like HP and IBM and Dell make their own BIOSs and mobos and lock down any sort of OCing ability (I think both, not sure, though, but they do prevent OCing).

Damn Rambus.

 

[Vapor]

You are quite possibly the dumbest person I have ever encountered...that includes my borderline-retarded cousin. You've never had a fully truthful statement on this forum, ever. You are the clueless one.

Damn Rambus.

 

[Vapor]

Wow, you really aren't 40 are you?? Did you just 'graduate' from middle school, little boy??

OH BTW, since when did you have a 3200+, A7N8X, and an FX5900??? Just a couple of days ago you had a 2800+ and a 2500+, an A7V, and a Ti4200, sounds like somebody is lying again.

Damn Rambus.

 

[shadus]

His system claims change on an hourly basis [sarcasm]It's cuz he needs to get higher kills in the fps games he plays... cuz everyone knows the faster your system is, the more frags you get. Why don't you know that a 3200+ means you are absolutely unfragable and that you run 10x the speed of everyone else.[/sarcasm]

Shadus

 

[Vapor]

ROFLMAO!!!! That's EXACTLY his 'logic' too! All I need to kickass is a good mouse, good keyboard (my good one stopped working, so I'm using an old PS2 one...BIG difference in how I play [for the worse]), and playable FPS. Heck, if a PII system could pull off 45 FPS, I'd use it. My system isn't a slouch, though, so I have no reason to complain.

He would be REALLY stupid to get an AXP 3200+ now too. It's slower than the P4Cs, costs more than the relative performance ones, and is PREVIOUS-gen. If he had any knowledge or common sense, he'd get a 3200+ A64. Not that I think he has that system, it's probably the system he wishes he had.

Damn Rambus.

 

[tlaughrey]

I did build my own system. I purchased the processor from Newegg.com. The link is here:

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-394&DEPA=1&sumit=property&catalog=343&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4159,4888&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=" target="_new">Barton 3000+/400 at Newegg.com</A>

The Barton 3000+/333 runs at 2.17GHz. The Barton 3000+/400 runs at 2.1GHz, but if you bump its multiplier up a notch then you have a 3200+/400.

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[shadus]

Hmm lets see using his logic... here's my pc... *grins evily*

Abit IC7-MAX3
Intel Pentium 4 3.4 EE HT 800FSB
Corsair TWINX1024-4000PRO
2 x WD CavSE SATA WD250JD 250GB 8MB 7200RPM
4 x WD Raptor SATA 36.7GB 8MB 10000RPM
ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256mb
Creative Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro
Lite On 52x24x52x CD-RW
Sony DRU-510A
Creative Gigaworks THX 7.1
Teac 1.44 Floppy Drive
Xaser III V2000A Case
Standalone Vapochill XE S478 Unit
Standalone Water Chill Setup for Chipset, VGA, and custom machined memory coolers.
Antec TRUE550 Power Supply
NEC FP2141SB-BK 22" Monitor
Logitech MX500 Mouse
Logitech Elite Black Keyboard
Windows XP Professional

I mean, it's a bit behind the times... and not duel processor, but it does what I need it to... It's a real b!tch to move since its not all in the case... *rofl* and not to mention i was really disappointed in the particular chip I got... only got up to 4250mhz after all that cooling... *cries*

Edit: Don't I WISH.

Shadus<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by shadus on 12/05/03 02:04 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[SoDNighthawk]

That is real interesting [ tlaughrey ] I notice it is an OEM version of the chip only. The ones that I have been looking at say Authentic BOXED Versions.

Yours is listed below:
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton", 400 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM

Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 3000+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.1GHz
FSB: 400MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Chip Only)

Where do you live in the world tlaughrey I am currently up in Canada but I spent the last 7 years working for Bell Canada International in Saudi Arabia managing the installalation of the new fibre optic networks. In 1984 the work was started and even back then you could use a payphone with a solar panel on top pop in your credit card and make a phone call to anywhere in the world at the same time you could look left and right up and down the highway and see for 50 miles in either direction.
SAUDI TELECOM. I have actually been back home in Canada for over 2 years but that was a big chunk of my life working over there.
Lots of fun we spent hours riding ATV's all around the Red Sea the only problem is we could not have alcohol or much of anything in the housing compound.
I did have dinner with the Prince of Tobrouk they call it a Goat Grab and they throw up the tents for that because it would be rude for a Prince to hold a dinner party in the palace, they still stick to Bedouin ways out of tradition. To bad Graphics cards did not go for Riyal instead on CAN funds.

Anyhow thnx for the update on the CPU I will see if we can order a few of them so we can bang on them a bit.
At least they will run in a A7N8X Deluxe board at default settings then we can see if the chips will actually run at the 400MHz I know yours is for you.

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