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SoDNighthawk   02-17-2005 at 01:33:09 PM

Ok fast post I am out for the day.

Anyone with some network skills and a well rounded knowledge of the Steam Network and associated game files such as CS, DoD and HL2 PLEASE.... Look around in your P.C for a fooking worm that steals bandwidth or corrupts bandwidth.

This is no minor annoyance this is a real issue. Do not look for the standard BS or connection settings in the registry or config.cfg files or Steam connection settings.

It has come to my attention that Admin's on game servers are able to tweak players connections to chop the crap out of a players bandwidth by applying a Choking file into the players Steam installs right through firewall and anti-virus software.

If you think you have the skills to track this bug down go for it and let us know. It will affect regular browsing speed even if Steam is not open. Serious pain in the @ss!!

Thanks in advance.

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BigMac   02-17-2005 at 01:59:52 PM
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Maybe you can explain in technical terms how a chokefile in a Steam install can influence internet browsing performance, even if Steam is not running?



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mrface   02-17-2005 at 06:12:44 PM
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Xeon   02-17-2005 at 08:05:43 PM
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Steams gay simply put, baffles me why you are useing the software but each to their own.

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SoDNighthawk   02-17-2005 at 10:48:15 PM
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Any file containing scripts that effect anything from system performance to networking will effect your computer. There is so many protected registry blobs etc in the Steam install they will effect your computer even if you do not have Steam open if the files have been tamperd with and you have no way of reading the contents to verify if they have or not.

By default Steam runs .exe's at boot-up and is a working process in your computer. You can disable it as a start-up item in the configuration utility or in MSCONFIG but it still has hooks into your registry that cannot be disabled without corrupting the Steam install.

Once the choke file has been placed into your hard drive no matter the location it will cause your system performance to decrease and you cannot do anything about it. That is why the malicious code is placed there in the first place.

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SoDNighthawk   02-17-2005 at 10:58:14 PM
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A crack for HL2 so I don' have to mess around with the Steam Network ?

Dude the Steam Network is the only place supporting Counterstrike and Day Of Defeat online. A crack is not going to change that.

Besides I have a full version retail copy of HL2 and do not need any crack to hook to the Steam Network and that was not the issue in the post at all if your bothered to comprehend it's content in the first place.

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jammydodger   02-17-2005 at 11:34:33 PM
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I love your conspiricy theories SoD, wasnt it microsoft that were placing trojan horse's in their OS's last month?

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jihiggs   02-17-2005 at 11:39:24 PM
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sod, you never cease to amaze me. you are a true inspiration to all idiots.

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zpyrd   02-17-2005 at 11:59:40 PM
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It seems like playing games on-line using Steam is a bigger problem than what it is worth. Why is it so important to use Steam?

Keep it simple because I have no interest in video games. In other words I like playing solitaire.

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SoDNighthawk   02-18-2005 at 03:52:47 AM
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Never mind I found the little basterd myself and removed it.

It was located in the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT of the Registry.

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GAME   02-18-2005 at 04:22:39 AM
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unfortunately, when you log on to someone's server they have rights to edit your HL2 config, and do all kinds of [-peep-].

its not right, but i've seen thread on this elsewhere before and theres ntohing that can be done besides not play on servers you dont know/trust.

i just wish they'd fix the friends network.

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SoDNighthawk   02-18-2005 at 04:32:57 AM
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Not a problem anymore because I found out where they are jamming the damn thing into the registry. I can clean it out any time I want to now.

As I said in the initial post to the guys look for it if you got nailed with it you will find it. If you did not get nailed with it then not to worry your skill levels at DoD are not good enough yet for an Admin to get pissed at you.

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SoDNighthawk   02-18-2005 at 12:42:49 PM
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Just did

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SoDNighthawk   02-19-2005 at 09:28:49 AM
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Found another back door Hackers in Steam will hit in your P.C if they want to mess with your connection.

They will set the reserve bandwidth in the QS Packet scheduler to 100% when the default is 20% but you should set it to 0% in XP Pro. If you have the Pro version of XP simply remove the QS packet scheduler from your network it is not needed. Yet still set the reserve to 0%.

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GAME   02-19-2005 at 10:02:01 AM
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Quote :

Found another back door Hackers in Steam will hit in your P.C if they want to mess with your connection.

They will set the reserve bandwidth in the QS Packet scheduler to 100% when the default is 20% but you should set it to 0% in XP Pro. If you have the Pro version of XP simply remove the QS packet scheduler from your network it is not needed. Yet still set the reserve to 0%.



Hey thanks for the heads up.. but I have a few questions about this hack, do you have a link to more information?

Im curious because I turned off the QOS packet scheduling bandwidth limit a very long time ago to speed up LAN traffic on my PCs.

As far as I know, QOS Packet scheduling should only affect LAN traffic, as I have mine set to 100% (it speeds up LAN transfers alot over the default 20% if you has QOS supporting LAN cards).

For now I'm goign to leave mine at 100% as I do alot of network transfers back and forth.

Thanks for the heads up, i'm trying to find more information on this particular steam hack.

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SoDNighthawk   02-19-2005 at 07:15:31 PM
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I read it in a Time Magazine in the Dentists office. A 2004 issue I believe, I never thought to much about it until I saw that it was being used as a target by online vandals to disrupt players connection bandwidth. That I read on another post on another forum.

As far as it effecting LAN (direct connection between computers I am not sure) For internet browsing and the use of TCP/UDP ports they stated that 20% default reserved bandwidth was the XP Pro default for secondary resident programs that have access to the internet but that it does NOT effect any primary program running or programs that have the computers current Focus.

Accept that in the case of Steam it will rob you of properly applied packets out to the greater network if it is set to 100% reserved settings. Steam does have a primary program the network it's self and then you start your game off the network such as Day Of Defeat or Counter Strike or HL2. After you do that the Steam Network becomes a secondary program and the game becomes the primary computers focus therefore dropping the Steam backbone in your computers resources into the secondary program group effected by the QS Packet scheduling.

It is simply a valid MS tool that is turned against a user in his own P.C. If we understand what things the hackers do then we can prevent them. It is no surprise that they way malicious people in online games are getting much better at hiding the footprints in the way they mess other players computers up. So many players over the last decade have all learned how to protect themselves from much of the nasty stuff that the elite hackers have had to find unique ways to sour the milk.

As an online gamer that enjoys it simply for the challenge and enjoyment we need to understand the unique ways in witch the hackers attack our computers. The QS Packet scheduler article in the magazine was not directed at gamers it was listed as a business productivity security risk in XP Pro that has not been patched by Microsoft.

Now that the hole was identified and published it is now being taken advantage of by hackers.

I only have Internet Protocal [TCP/IP] running in my network. All other aspects of the XP networking has been fully removed.

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mrface   02-19-2005 at 07:24:21 PM
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just deete your qos scheduler. xp autmatically puts in inthere for you but you dont need and oiftne time slows up your compy anyways.

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