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Anonymous
May 19, 2004 12:09:53 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Hi there,

I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.

After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
its ok to use.

Current Battery:
----------------
P/N 75UYF
Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh


New Battery:
------------
Item Number 312-0522
Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
Type 66Whr

The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".


So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
4460mAh.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
Anonymous
May 19, 2004 8:14:54 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more weight
and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working at
capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much current
from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac adapter
is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
battery come from?

"Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> Hi there,
>
> I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
>
> After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> its ok to use.
>
> Current Battery:
> ----------------
> P/N 75UYF
> Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
>
>
> New Battery:
> ------------
> Item Number 312-0522
> Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> Type 66Whr
>
> The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
>
>
> So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> 4460mAh.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
Anonymous
May 20, 2004 1:01:16 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Ahh - so replacing the 3800mAh battery with a 4460mAh one isnt going
to hurt the machine? That's good to hear.

It would make sense that the new battery is trying to draw too much
current from the current power supply.

The power supply I'm using right now is:
Dell Model AA20031
PA-6 Family
P/N 9364U
C/O CN
Rev A00
DP/N 09364U

INPUT: AC 100-240V 50/60Hz
130-170VA
OUTPUT: DC20V 3.5A

From these specs, can it be concluded that the power supply is not
compatible with the new 4460mAh battery?

Thanks for your help, Christopher.

Chris.


"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<2KLqc.83$6K6.28@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
> voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
> higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more weight
> and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working at
> capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much current
> from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac adapter
> is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
> battery come from?
>
> "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> > compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
> >
> > After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> > presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> > its ok to use.
> >
> > Current Battery:
> > ----------------
> > P/N 75UYF
> > Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
> >
> >
> > New Battery:
> > ------------
> > Item Number 312-0522
> > Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> > Type 66Whr
> >
> > The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> > 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
> >
> >
> > So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> > be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> > 4460mAh.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
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Anonymous
May 20, 2004 1:04:04 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

BTW, the new battery came directly from Dell in Canada.
FYI: The laptop was purchased in the states.

Not sure if that makes a difference.

Chris.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<2KLqc.83$6K6.28@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
> voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
> higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more weight
> and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working at
> capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much current
> from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac adapter
> is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
> battery come from?
>
> "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> > compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
> >
> > After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> > presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> > its ok to use.
> >
> > Current Battery:
> > ----------------
> > P/N 75UYF
> > Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
> >
> >
> > New Battery:
> > ------------
> > Item Number 312-0522
> > Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> > Type 66Whr
> >
> > The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> > 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
> >
> >
> > So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> > be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> > 4460mAh.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
Anonymous
May 20, 2004 8:51:53 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

you probably should call dell and ask them about this, but my sense of it is
that they didn't offer the higher amperage battery with your model and so
the ac adapter simply isn't up to the task of both running the computer and
charging the larger capacity battery at the same time. i thought that it
would be smart enough to just not recharge the battery (or just trickle
charge it) if it did not have reserve... but with the later model laptops
that were offered with the higher amperage batteries there is also a higher
amperage and wattage power supply...
your pa-6 pn 9364u is a 20v, 3.5amp, 70watt unit. the newer compatible
replacement unit is the pa-9, also the same three prong plug, and 20v output
but with 4.5amp, and 90watt output (meaning that it can handle a higher load
that the pa-6 ac adapter). since ac adapters (unlike batteries) don't go
bad with age, you don't have to worry about getting a fresh one... and
there are tons of them on ebay for less than what dell wants. in the mean
time, i wonder if you can charge your new battery by installing it into the
computer while off and plug in in the ac adapter... once fully charged you
should be able to run the system on ac with the new battery in place...
sounds as if the combination of a low battery and system turned on is what
knocks out the pa-6 ac adapter. let us know your results.

"Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37bd80aa.0405192001.12039f94@posting.google.com...
> Ahh - so replacing the 3800mAh battery with a 4460mAh one isnt going
> to hurt the machine? That's good to hear.
>
> It would make sense that the new battery is trying to draw too much
> current from the current power supply.
>
> The power supply I'm using right now is:
> Dell Model AA20031
> PA-6 Family
> P/N 9364U
> C/O CN
> Rev A00
> DP/N 09364U
>
> INPUT: AC 100-240V 50/60Hz
> 130-170VA
> OUTPUT: DC20V 3.5A
>
> From these specs, can it be concluded that the power supply is not
> compatible with the new 4460mAh battery?
>
> Thanks for your help, Christopher.
>
> Chris.
>
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<2KLqc.83$6K6.28@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
> > voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
> > higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more
weight
> > and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working
at
> > capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much
current
> > from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac
adapter
> > is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
> > battery come from?
> >
> > "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> > > compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
> > >
> > > After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> > > presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> > > its ok to use.
> > >
> > > Current Battery:
> > > ----------------
> > > P/N 75UYF
> > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
> > >
> > >
> > > New Battery:
> > > ------------
> > > Item Number 312-0522
> > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> > > Type 66Whr
> > >
> > > The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> > > 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
> > >
> > >
> > > So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> > > be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> > > 4460mAh.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
Anonymous
May 20, 2004 10:53:16 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Yeah, it looks like I just have to buy a 4.5A power supply to replace
the 3.5A one, as the new 4460mAh battery requires a 4.5A charging
current.

I did try inserting the battery while the machine was not powered on,
and had the same result: the power supply would turn off after a few
seconds.

I'll let you know if it works with the new power supply!

Thanks agian for your help,
Chris.


"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<JPWqc.2645$UZ1.674@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...
> you probably should call dell and ask them about this, but my sense of it is
> that they didn't offer the higher amperage battery with your model and so
> the ac adapter simply isn't up to the task of both running the computer and
> charging the larger capacity battery at the same time. i thought that it
> would be smart enough to just not recharge the battery (or just trickle
> charge it) if it did not have reserve... but with the later model laptops
> that were offered with the higher amperage batteries there is also a higher
> amperage and wattage power supply...
> your pa-6 pn 9364u is a 20v, 3.5amp, 70watt unit. the newer compatible
> replacement unit is the pa-9, also the same three prong plug, and 20v output
> but with 4.5amp, and 90watt output (meaning that it can handle a higher load
> that the pa-6 ac adapter). since ac adapters (unlike batteries) don't go
> bad with age, you don't have to worry about getting a fresh one... and
> there are tons of them on ebay for less than what dell wants. in the mean
> time, i wonder if you can charge your new battery by installing it into the
> computer while off and plug in in the ac adapter... once fully charged you
> should be able to run the system on ac with the new battery in place...
> sounds as if the combination of a low battery and system turned on is what
> knocks out the pa-6 ac adapter. let us know your results.
>
> "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:37bd80aa.0405192001.12039f94@posting.google.com...
> > Ahh - so replacing the 3800mAh battery with a 4460mAh one isnt going
> > to hurt the machine? That's good to hear.
> >
> > It would make sense that the new battery is trying to draw too much
> > current from the current power supply.
> >
> > The power supply I'm using right now is:
> > Dell Model AA20031
> > PA-6 Family
> > P/N 9364U
> > C/O CN
> > Rev A00
> > DP/N 09364U
> >
> > INPUT: AC 100-240V 50/60Hz
> > 130-170VA
> > OUTPUT: DC20V 3.5A
> >
> > From these specs, can it be concluded that the power supply is not
> > compatible with the new 4460mAh battery?
> >
> > Thanks for your help, Christopher.
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:<2KLqc.83$6K6.28@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
> > > voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
> > > higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more
> weight
> > > and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working
> at
> > > capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much
> current
> > > from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac
> adapter
> > > is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
> > > battery come from?
> > >
> > > "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> > > > compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
> > > >
> > > > After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> > > > presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> > > > its ok to use.
> > > >
> > > > Current Battery:
> > > > ----------------
> > > > P/N 75UYF
> > > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > New Battery:
> > > > ------------
> > > > Item Number 312-0522
> > > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> > > > Type 66Whr
> > > >
> > > > The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> > > > 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> > > > be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> > > > 4460mAh.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
May 20, 2004 11:32:57 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

write back and let us know how much longer the computer lasts. I'm eager to
find out. I have a C600 with the 3800Mah battery and I am contemplating
getting the new 4460MAh battery. I'm curious to know how much more time I
would actually get....


"Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37bd80aa.0405192004.7a83ae7f@posting.google.com...
> BTW, the new battery came directly from Dell in Canada.
> FYI: The laptop was purchased in the states.
>
> Not sure if that makes a difference.
>
> Chris.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<2KLqc.83$6K6.28@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
> > voltage, form factor, and minimum amperage rating makes it compatible.
> > higher amperage means longer lasting... it also usually means more
weight
> > and potentially slower charging (if your ac adapter is already working
at
> > capacity). i wonder if the new battery is trying to draw too much
current
> > from your ac adapter (re your other thread) and that is why the ac
adapter
> > is shutting down. which ac adapter are you using and where did your new
> > battery come from?
> >
> > "Chris Yewchuk" <stickyfngrs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:37bd80aa.0405190709.63e54d03@posting.google.com...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I recently got a replacement battery for my Latitude C800 listed as
> > > compatible with CP/C600/C500/C800/C810/C610/C510.
> > >
> > > After receiving the battery, I compared the ratings with the one I'm
> > > presently using, and there were slight changes, making me wonder if
> > > its ok to use.
> > >
> > > Current Battery:
> > > ----------------
> > > P/N 75UYF
> > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 3800mAh
> > >
> > >
> > > New Battery:
> > > ------------
> > > Item Number 312-0522
> > > Rating: 14.8V ~ 4460mAh
> > > Type 66Whr
> > >
> > > The label on the new battery states "replace battery with DELL TYPE
> > > 66Whr, 750UYF or P/N 75UYF".
> > >
> > >
> > > So my question is, is the new battery ok to use? Everything seems to
> > > be say yes, except the current ratings are different: 3800mAh vs
> > > 4460mAh.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!
Anonymous
June 10, 2004 1:16:54 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

stickyfngrs@yahoo.com (Chris Yewchuk) wrote in message news:<37bd80aa.0405200553.3870b3ef@posting.google.com>...
> Yeah, it looks like I just have to buy a 4.5A power supply to replace
> the 3.5A one, as the new 4460mAh battery requires a 4.5A charging
> current.

I have a similar same situation. My Inspiron 4000 75UYF battery cannot
hold a charge anymore. So I got a 66WHR to replace it. Using my PA-6
3.5A power supply to charge the 66WHR takes forever. So I tried a PA-9
4.5A instead (from an Inspiron 5150). Makes not a damn difference.
Both power supplies charge about 8% of the battery per hour while my
laptop is powered on. This means 12.5 hours for a full charge. (This
used to be only a few hours with the 75UYF battery.)

It must be some internal limitation of the laptop, not the power
supply. (I don't have the same problems you have with the power supply
failing.)

I'll try later with the laptop turned off.. but it is harder to keep
track of the charge time that way.

As for operating time of the battery, I used it for more than 2 hours
(2.5 or so) when it reached 3%. I was working at the time, so I
plugged in the power supply at that point. This is the same time I got
using the 75UYF when it was still working ok.

Richie

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