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November 17, 2012 11:30:34 PM

I am a gamer just to let you know.
Here is the customization: (NOTE: BRAND IS HP, MODEL IS: Pavilion HPE h8-1360t series)
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Operating system : Windows 7 Ultimate 64
Processor : 3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K quad-core processor [3.5GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
Memory: 10GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Hard drive: 1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
Secondary Hard Drive: None
Graphics card: 2GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 7570 [DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter]
Power Supply: 300W Power supply
Primary optical drive : SuperMulti DVD Burner
Networking: Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R )(2x2)
Productivity ports: 15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 USB 2.0 (front), 2 USB 3.0 (top)
Office software: Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word & Excel w/ ads. No PowerPoint or Outlook
Security software: No additional security software
TV & entertainment experience: No TV Tuner
Sound Card: Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound
Keyboard and Mouse: Premium HP keyboard and optical mouse
Included Software Bundle: Adobe Premiere Elements & Photoshop Elements 10

I wish it didn't come with the Officer Starter, Or any OEM's.

The price is $1,274.99
Then theirs a rebate of -$150.00
So it equals out to be: $1,124.99

Am I getting a good deal/ what should I change?
(I heard Windows Ultimate is better for gaming)
I will be getting around $200-$250 dollars per month, to be paying half of the price.
Thanks!
(NOTE: I am new, so please if this is in the wrong forum section, please tell me or move it!)
November 17, 2012 11:39:36 PM

You can build your own and get much more for that much money. Do you want to build your own or just buy a pre-built?
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November 17, 2012 11:41:14 PM

NO you are not getting a good deal!!!

Do not buy a computer from an OEM, build it yourself.

One the graphics card is waaaaayyyy to weak, typical of HP.
The CPU is too powerful for most peoples use.
The Power supply is pathetic.

AND you definitely DO NOT need windows Ultimate, professional is enough for any use.

Give me a minute and I will build you a PC you will never regret.

I have just a few question??
What resolution is your screen?
What games do you play?
Do you only use this PC for games and some light use?
Do you want to overclock?
Do you mind a full sized box for a PC or do you prefer something smaller?

One more, what site are you purchasing from?
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November 18, 2012 12:13:53 AM

Processor (identical to the HP one) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard (allows overclocking and is a lot better than HP one) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card(this one is so much better than the one in HP that I can not even compare):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want to see a comparison chart. I don't even see the card listed, probably because it is an OEM card. But it would be much lower than an HD7750. Which is on there, you can compare by that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Case (much better airflow and better looking than the HP) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply, provides more than double the power than the 300W HP. You will need the extra power if you want a good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD drive(same thing basically) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard drive : Probably the same thing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM x2 (these are a lot faster and also more 16GB vs 10GB, get two of these)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This comes to a total of 1151 Dollars before rebate. BUT this is going to kick the HP system likes its grass.
If I were to build the exact same specs as the HP the way I have done now. The total would come to less than 800Dollars.


BUT anyway, I would rather suggest changing a few things.

1. Rather get an I5 3570K as games do not use more than 4 cores and mostly I7s are overkill.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That would save you a hundred bucks, which you could consider getting an SSD with or aftermarket CPU cooler with so that you could overclock.

2. Depending on the resolution of your screen you could get a bit weaker graphics card. Saving you more for an SSD.
Please tell me if you do not know what an SSD is.

3. You could only get 8GB of RAM, since you could always upgrade that later for very cheap. Once again, money for SSD.

Sooo ask me questions?
What would you like to know?
Would you like to know why I said the other graphics card is horrible?
Would you like more of an explanation why the HP machine is a VERY bad idea?

EDIT : Forgot to add Windows and wireless device(if you need it)

Windows 7 Pro :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wireless card :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This obviously brings the total up a bit, BUT as I said, you could get the weaker but in many ways better processor and a weaker graphics card(will need you monitor resolution and what games you play for that first)

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November 18, 2012 12:15:44 AM

Novuake said:
NO you are not getting a good deal!!!

Do not buy a computer from an OEM, build it yourself.

One the graphics card is waaaaayyyy to weak, typical of HP.
The CPU is too powerful for most peoples use.
The Power supply is pathetic.

AND you definitely DO NOT need windows Ultimate, professional is enough for any use.

Give me a minute and I will build you a PC you will never regret.

I have just a few question??
What resolution is your screen?
What games do you play?
Do you only use this PC for games and some light use?
Do you want to overclock?
Do you mind a full sized box for a PC or do you prefer something smaller?

One more, what site are you purchasing from?


Okay. Well here is the site where I customized it, http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configu...
My Resolution is 1280 x 1024. I play all the valve games and gmod, (GTA IV, GTA etc..) Minecraft.
If you recommend overclocking, sure..
I'll use this for web browsing, skype, facebook, but mainly gaming.
I want a full sized box. The greatest you can get.
I cannot build it myself, Because I cannot get the money to build one, (if I do I prob will mess up and waste the money) I know HTML, and web design not building computers. And I would like it all ready to go when I turn it on.

Oh, and again the best you can get for $1,125.00 dollars (One thousand one hundred twenty five.) I really would use it for gaming, that is what it is in my life. Skype and gaming (skype for the gamers) and I do some in-browsing gaming. Oh! And Spotify.
I want you to recommend me the best you can get
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November 18, 2012 12:16:38 AM

Build your own,it's a better value.
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November 18, 2012 12:17:37 AM

Oh don't buy big OEM PCs, especially not HP.

Everything in that PC is all junk except the parts the marketing department gets all warm and fuzzy about like 10 GB of memory and Intel i7-somethingmeaningless.

Now be prepared to let the others ask you some questions like what games you play and what you would like to do with your PC and if you got a display with you already.

Helpful nice folk here at toms will help you buy a PC made from retail parts the manufacturers aren't shamed of to let you know it's actually their product.
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a c 411 $ Windows 7
November 18, 2012 12:17:44 AM

300W Power supply < not enough for gaming rig.
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November 18, 2012 12:23:32 AM

Novuake said:
Processor (identical to the HP one) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard (allows overclocking and is a lot better than HP one) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card(this one is so much better than the one in HP that I can not even compare):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want to see a comparison chart. I don't even see the card listed, probably because it is an OEM card. But it would be much lower than an HD7750. Which is on there, you can compare by that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Case (much better airflow and better looking than the HP) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply, provides more than double the power than the 300W HP. You will need the extra power if you want a good graphics card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD drive(same thing basically) :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard drive : Probably the same thing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM x2 (these are a lot faster and also more 16GB vs 10GB, get two of these)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This comes to a total of 1151 Dollars before rebate. BUT this is going to kick the HP system likes its grass.
If I were to build the exact same specs as the HP the way I have done now. The total would come to less than 800Dollars.


BUT anyway, I would rather suggest changing a few things.

1. Rather get an I5 3570K as games do not use more than 4 cores and mostly I7s are overkill.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That would save you a hundred bucks, which you could consider getting an SSD with or aftermarket CPU cooler with so that you could overclock.

2. Depending on the resolution of your screen you could get a bit weaker graphics card. Saving you more for an SSD.
Please tell me if you do not know what an SSD is.

3. You could only get 8GB of RAM, since you could always upgrade that later for very cheap. Once again, money for SSD.

Sooo ask me questions?
What would you like to know?
Would you like to know why I said the other graphics card is horrible?
Would you like more of an explanation why the HP machine is a VERY bad idea?

EDIT : Forgot to add Windows and wireless device(if you need it)

Windows 7 Pro :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wireless card :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This obviously brings the total up a bit, BUT as I said, you could get the weaker but in many ways better processor and a weaker graphics card(will need you monitor resolution and what games you play for that first)


I sent you a private message, so we can talk about this more.

You got me alot of ideas, maybe you can do a step by step with me when I am building it!
I will most likely build it in March or May
Need to get the money!

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Okay. Well here is the site where I customized it, http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/ [...] mailconfig
My Resolution is 1280 x 1024. I play all the valve games and gmod, (GTA IV, GTA etc..) Minecraft.
If you recommend overclocking, sure..
I'll use this for web browsing, skype, facebook, but mainly gaming.
I want a full sized box. The greatest you can get.
I cannot build it myself, Because I cannot get the money to build one, (if I do I prob will mess up and waste the money) I know HTML, and web design not building computers. And I would like it all ready to go when I turn it on.

Oh, and again the best you can get for $1,125.00 dollars (One thousand one hundred twenty five.) I really would use it for gaming, that is what it is in my life. Skype and gaming (skype for the gamers) and I do some in-browsing gaming. Oh! And Spotify.
I want you to recommend me the best you can get
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November 18, 2012 12:29:56 AM

ElijahLee said:
Okay. Well here is the site where I customized it, http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configu...
My Resolution is 1280 x 1024. I play all the valve games and gmod, (GTA IV, GTA etc..) Minecraft.
If you recommend overclocking, sure..
I'll use this for web browsing, skype, facebook, but mainly gaming.
I want a full sized box. The greatest you can get.
I cannot build it myself, Because I cannot get the money to build one, (if I do I prob will mess up and waste the money) I know HTML, and web design not building computers. And I would like it all ready to go when I turn it on.

Oh, and again the best you can get for $1,125.00 dollars (One thousand one hundred twenty five.) I really would use it for gaming, that is what it is in my life. Skype and gaming (skype for the gamers) and I do some in-browsing gaming. Oh! And Spotify.
I want you to recommend me the best you can get


Ok simple.

At that resolution you would not need such a high-end graphics card.
This would be better :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ok after scaling that down and the I5 instead of the I7, which I highly recommend, brings you to :

968dollars without Windows and Wireless card.

With Windows and wireless card :

1123Dollars!

VIOLA!!! Manufique...(not entirely sure how to spell tht French word. LOL!!!)
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November 18, 2012 12:31:38 AM

I would like the fastest I could get, so i5 vs i7 doesn't really matter unless your monitor changes?
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November 18, 2012 12:34:51 AM

ElijahLee said:
I would like the fastest I could get, so i5 vs i7 doesn't really matter unless your monitor changes?


no thats thegraphics card that matter. An i7 is super overkill. Games only use a max of 4 cores. Meaning the extra 4 threads(fake cores) that you pay a hundred bucks four are not really used.

These four extra threads(fake cores) only make a worthwhile difference when you are using photoshop or those kinds of application.
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November 18, 2012 12:37:06 AM

Thanks!! Really you've made my day, Could you reply to my message i've sent you?
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November 18, 2012 12:37:24 AM

NVM! I saw it
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November 18, 2012 12:38:00 AM

Best answer selected by ElijahLee.
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November 18, 2012 1:49:45 AM

Building my own later! Thank you guys!
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