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Hi Ng, I have a question.

Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
out.

Is this normal?

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Leythos wrote:

> Are you suggesting that Drive Image 7, runs under Windows and makes a
> "Perfect" image of the entire disk without missing any files that are
> "in-use"?

Quite apart from the fact that the OP asked about RESTORING from
Windows, True Image 8, and I believe Ghost 9 (not to be confused with
Ghost 2003) enable you to make backups from Windows. This includes
backups of the system partition. It works.
 
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You can not restore the Windows System partition while you are using the
system. You "must" restore the system partition by booting from the Ghost
2003 floppy. If you only have one partition on your computers hard drive,
this will be the case every time you want to restore.

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> Hi Ng, I have a question.
>
> Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,?
> In windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are
> grayed out.
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Thanks!
>
 
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In article <OTF5NeisFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, jacesto66
@internet.lu says...
> Hi Ng, I have a question.
>
> Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
> windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
> out.

I don't know of any software that runs IN windows that allows you to
make a perfect image of the boot drive while it's in use.

The DOS boot methods means that nothing on the drive to be cloned is in
Use.

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From: "Werner Bartz" <jacesto66@internet.lu>

| Hi Ng, I have a question.
|
| Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
| windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
| out.
|
| Is this normal?
|
| Thanks!
|

How about a Symantec News Group such as; symantec.customerservice.general

Afterall Ghost is NOT a MS product, it is from Symantec.

The reason you boot of a DOS disk is that the OS on the hard didk is NOT running there fore
100% of the files and Ghost image is restore to the hard disk. Same as creating an image.
Running the OS means open File Handles and they can't be copied/imaged properly and thus by
booting off a DOS disk you eliminate the any OS File Handles from being held open by the OS
on the hard disk.

Just do a image to hard didk restoration.

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Check here but be prepared to do some reading http://ghost.radified.com/

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> Hi Ng, I have a question.
>
> Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,?
> In windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are
> grayed out.
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Thanks!
>
 
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From: "bxf" <bill@topman.net>

|
| Leythos wrote:
|
>> Are you suggesting that Drive Image 7, runs under Windows and makes a
>> "Perfect" image of the entire disk without missing any files that are
>> "in-use"?
|
| Quite apart from the fact that the OP asked about RESTORING from
| Windows, True Image 8, and I believe Ghost 9 (not to be confused with
| Ghost 2003) enable you to make backups from Windows. This includes
| backups of the system partition. It works.

Ghost 2003 as well. But that is a backup, not a 100% image.

BTW: Ghost v9 includes Ghost 2003.

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <OTF5NeisFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, jacesto66
> @internet.lu says...
>
>>Hi Ng, I have a question.
>>
>>Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
>>windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
>>out.
>
>
> I don't know of any software that runs IN windows that allows you to
> make a perfect image of the boot drive while it's in use.
>
> The DOS boot methods means that nothing on the drive to be cloned is in
> Use.
>

Drive Image 7.0 does.

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I have 2 HDD's, one the first one is my operating system and another
partition called P.
The 2nd HDD is only for back up's, it has no partitions.

I wanted to restore an image file from my backup HDD to the partition called
P on the 1st HDD
This didn't work in windows, because the partition P was grayed out, this
normal?
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> You can not restore the Windows System partition while you are using the
> system. You "must" restore the system partition by booting from the Ghost
> 2003 floppy. If you only have one partition on your computers hard drive,
> this will be the case every time you want to restore.
>
> --
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>
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> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> Quote from: George Ankner
> "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>
> "Werner Bartz" <jacesto66@internet.lu> wrote in message
> news:OTF5NeisFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Ng, I have a question.
>>
>> Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,?
>> In windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are
>> grayed out.
>>
>> Is this normal?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>
 
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From: "Werner Bartz" <jacesto66@internet.lu>

|
| I have 2 HDD's, one the first one is my operating system and another
| partition called P.
| The 2nd HDD is only for back up's, it has no partitions.
|
| I wanted to restore an image file from my backup HDD to the partition called
| P on the 1st HDD
| This didn't work in windows, because the partition P was grayed out, this
| normal?
| Thanks

The 2cnd hard disk *must* have at least one partition and high level formatted or you can
NOT store image files as backups on that drive in the first place.

Are you trying to restore a file from an image or the complete image of the hard didk ?

If you want to restore a file form an image you do so in Windows and the Ghost Explorer
utility is to extract a file (or files) from GHO/GHS file which is the image.

If you want to retore the entire image to a hard disk you boot off a DOS based Ghost Boot
Disk and open the image on the 2cnd hard disk and restoire the image to the first hard disk.

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In article <O9zOUBksFHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > In article <OTF5NeisFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, jacesto66
> > @internet.lu says...
> >
> >>Hi Ng, I have a question.
> >>
> >>Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
> >>windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
> >>out.
> >
> >
> > I don't know of any software that runs IN windows that allows you to
> > make a perfect image of the boot drive while it's in use.
> >
> > The DOS boot methods means that nothing on the drive to be cloned is in
> > Use.
> >
>
> Drive Image 7.0 does.

Are you suggesting that Drive Image 7, runs under Windows and makes a
"Perfect" image of the entire disk without missing any files that are
"in-use"?

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <O9zOUBksFHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
> says...
>
>>Leythos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <OTF5NeisFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, jacesto66
>>>@internet.lu says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Ng, I have a question.
>>>>
>>>>Why does Norton Ghost 2003 only restores an image to a partition in DOS,? In
>>>>windows I can only restore the whole drive, because my partitions are grayed
>>>>out.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't know of any software that runs IN windows that allows you to
>>>make a perfect image of the boot drive while it's in use.
>>>
>>>The DOS boot methods means that nothing on the drive to be cloned is in
>>>Use.
>>>
>>
>>Drive Image 7.0 does.
>
>
> Are you suggesting that Drive Image 7, runs under Windows and makes a
> "Perfect" image of the entire disk without missing any files that are
> "in-use"?
>

Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.

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| Are you suggesting that Drive Image 7, runs under Windows and makes a
| "Perfect" image of the entire disk without missing any files that are
| "in-use"?
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Exactly. If the File Handle is inuse and held open by the OS, you can't change its
attributes, rename it or copy it.

I for one would certainly entertain hearing if and how Drive Image can handle this issue
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David H. Lipman wrote:

> From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
>
>
> | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
> |
> | --
> | Rock
> | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
>

I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
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From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>

| I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
| windows makes a exact image of the drive.
|
| --
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| MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

No offense but... I need that info in order for me to change my POV.

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David H. Lipman wrote:

> From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
>
> | I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
> | windows makes a exact image of the drive.
> |
> | --
> | Rock
> | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> No offense but... I need that info in order for me to change my POV.
>

I can't answer that for you. I don't know how it does it, other than it
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In article <1125945256.582208.27910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
bill@topman.net says...
> Quite apart from the fact that the OP asked about RESTORING from
> Windows, True Image 8, and I believe Ghost 9 (not to be confused with
> Ghost 2003) enable you to make backups from Windows. This includes
> backups of the system partition. It works.

Take a blank drive, then restore you backup to it, not everything will
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Using Drive Image 7.01 and now Ghost 9 I can create an image of the Windows
system partition within Windows - as I am actively working the news groups.
The news group messages are kept on partition D:. I can then reboot with the
Partition Magic floppies and format my Windows Partition. Then, rebooting
using the Ghost 9 CD I restore the Windows partition - exactly as it was.

I have done this many dozens of times with Ghost 9 and with Drive Image
7.01. Believe me when I state that everything is there.

I can not vouch for True Image.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <1125945256.582208.27910@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> bill@topman.net says...
>> Quite apart from the fact that the OP asked about RESTORING from
>> Windows, True Image 8, and I believe Ghost 9 (not to be confused with
>> Ghost 2003) enable you to make backups from Windows. This includes
>> backups of the system partition. It works.
>
> Take a blank drive, then restore you backup to it, not everything will
> be there.
>
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In article <OOKplDlsFHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
says...
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>
> > From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
> >
> >
> > | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
> > |
> > | --
> > | Rock
> > | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >
> > Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
> >
>
> I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
> windows makes a exact image of the drive.

I've never seen any program running INSIDE windows OS (XP/2003) that can
make copies of Locked files. Sure, I've seen some that can wait, some
that can read Open files, but, I'm willing to bet that it won't make
"perfect" image of the drive.

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In article <#fXG6IlsFHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com says...
> Using Drive Image 7.01 and now Ghost 9 I can create an image of the Windows
> system partition within Windows - as I am actively working the news groups.
> The news group messages are kept on partition D:. I can then reboot with the
> Partition Magic floppies and format my Windows Partition. Then, rebooting
> using the Ghost 9 CD I restore the Windows partition - exactly as it was.
>
> I have done this many dozens of times with Ghost 9 and with Drive Image
> 7.01. Believe me when I state that everything is there.
>
> I can not vouch for True Image.

I have the same feature on my Ghost 2003 package, to make images inside
Windows while not booting to DOS, but, it does not make copies of locked
files. Since we run MS SQL DE on every desktop here in the office, it
would not make a backup of any of the database files during it's backup
- which is normal and what I expect from a package that clones drives.

Computer Associates makes a HA service that will monitor Drive Access a
the lowest of levels and then copy that information to another server -
so it's a hot spare, but it doesn't work like Ghost does.

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On Monday 05 September 2005 12:44 pm, Leythos had this to say in
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> In article <OOKplDlsFHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
> says...
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>
>> > From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
>> >
>> >
>> > | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
>> > |
>> > | --
>> > | Rock
>> > | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >
>> > Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
>> >
>>
>> I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
>> windows makes a exact image of the drive.
>
> I've never seen any program running INSIDE windows OS (XP/2003) that can
> make copies of Locked files. Sure, I've seen some that can wait, some
> that can read Open files, but, I'm willing to bet that it won't make
> "perfect" image of the drive.
>

Have you used Acronis True Image 8.0? No problems with images created with
this program. I also use Acronis True Image Server 4 Linux and backup my
Linux boxes while running the OS either over the network or to an external
USB2 drive.


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In article <xO4Te.98914$Hk.55485@pd7tw1no>, nostop@stopspam.com says...
> On Monday 05 September 2005 12:44 pm, Leythos had this to say in
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
>
> > In article <OOKplDlsFHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
> > says...
> >> David H. Lipman wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
> >> > |
> >> > | --
> >> > | Rock
> >> > | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> >
> >> > Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
> >> windows makes a exact image of the drive.
> >
> > I've never seen any program running INSIDE windows OS (XP/2003) that can
> > make copies of Locked files. Sure, I've seen some that can wait, some
> > that can read Open files, but, I'm willing to bet that it won't make
> > "perfect" image of the drive.
> >
>
> Have you used Acronis True Image 8.0? No problems with images created with
> this program. I also use Acronis True Image Server 4 Linux and backup my
> Linux boxes while running the OS either over the network or to an external
> USB2 drive.

No I've not used it, but I was considering it until Symantec bought it
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On Monday 05 September 2005 07:05 pm, Leythos had this to say in
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> In article <xO4Te.98914$Hk.55485@pd7tw1no>, nostop@stopspam.com says...
>> On Monday 05 September 2005 12:44 pm, Leythos had this to say in
>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
>>
>> > In article <OOKplDlsFHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
>> > says...
>> >> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
>> >> > |
>> >> > | --
>> >> > | Rock
>> >> > | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >> >
>> >> > Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
>> >> windows makes a exact image of the drive.
>> >
>> > I've never seen any program running INSIDE windows OS (XP/2003) that
>> > can make copies of Locked files. Sure, I've seen some that can wait,
>> > some that can read Open files, but, I'm willing to bet that it won't
>> > make "perfect" image of the drive.
>> >
>>
>> Have you used Acronis True Image 8.0? No problems with images created
>> with this program. I also use Acronis True Image Server 4 Linux and
>> backup my Linux boxes while running the OS either over the network or to
>> an external USB2 drive.
>
> No I've not used it, but I was considering it until Symantec bought it
> and did version 9.
>
Symantec bought what? I don't think we're talking about the same product
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In article <2s7Te.101026$Hk.58250@pd7tw1no>, nostop@stopspam.com says...
> On Monday 05 September 2005 07:05 pm, Leythos had this to say in
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
>
> > In article <xO4Te.98914$Hk.55485@pd7tw1no>, nostop@stopspam.com says...
> >> On Monday 05 September 2005 12:44 pm, Leythos had this to say in
> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
> >>
> >> > In article <OOKplDlsFHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, rock@mail.nospam.net
> >> > says...
> >> >> David H. Lipman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > From: "Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > | Yes, it will "hot" image. I do it all the time.
> >> >> > |
> >> >> > | --
> >> >> > | Rock
> >> >> > | MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please define and elaborate how it handles open File Handles.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know David. What I do know is that running it from within
> >> >> windows makes a exact image of the drive.
> >> >
> >> > I've never seen any program running INSIDE windows OS (XP/2003) that
> >> > can make copies of Locked files. Sure, I've seen some that can wait,
> >> > some that can read Open files, but, I'm willing to bet that it won't
> >> > make "perfect" image of the drive.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Have you used Acronis True Image 8.0? No problems with images created
> >> with this program. I also use Acronis True Image Server 4 Linux and
> >> backup my Linux boxes while running the OS either over the network or to
> >> an external USB2 drive.
> >
> > No I've not used it, but I was considering it until Symantec bought it
> > and did version 9.
> >
> Symantec bought what? I don't think we're talking about the same product
> here.

Sorry, I remember that Symantec bought something and is calling it the
New Ghost, I could have mistaken the name.

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