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this is what ive come up with so far... im looking to make a machine which is going to be for gaming for a long time... ( relitivity speaking, of course )

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Shuttle nForce3 150 Motherboard Model AN50R
Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 x2
ATI RADEON 9800PRO, 128MB DDR (wondering if its worth it to go to 256)
Western Digital 120GB special Ed. 7200 rpm
Lian Li PC-65B mid Tower
...probabilly one of the audigy sound cards.

tell me what you think.

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You have lots of meny to spend!!!

I'm not sure for the motherboard. I read a lot of reviews of Athlon64 boards and there is no concensus on chipset. Some reviewers says VIA is best, others says nVidia and recently SiS chipset made good impressions...

REVIEW OF THE SiS CHIPSET FOR Athlon64 :
<A HREF="http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/sis/sis755/755-1.htm" target="_new">http://www.ocworkbench.com/2003/sis/sis755/755-1.htm</A>

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Reply to TheRod

Looks like a nice system. I'd have probally been inclined to go with the via chipset but it looks good regardless and I think you'll be quite happy with the performance.

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Reply to shadus

Not sure about the mobo.

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Reply to Snorkius

THG in a recent review declared MSI K8T Neo as the best mobo for A64 CPUs. Othen than that, it looks really good!

Reply to pitsi

thanks, I dont know what im doing for the most part, so I was expecting a "you fool! You'll kill us all!!!" guess I got lucky =) Is the MSI K8T Neo mobo unlocked for overclocking?

Reply to Aziboah

nforce boards are top of the line, Nvidia designs those chip-sets obviously and that is saying allot considering they are the word leaders in graphics GPU's.

The fact that the nForce2 chipsets won chipset of the year for 2003 and Tom's hardware guide gave the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe board with the nForce2 chipset Board of the year including putting the Tom's Logo on the Box and in posts they say the nForce motherboards out perform other types of chipsets by nearly 300%.

Nice system you have there I purchased and updated my current system and went to the A7N8X Deluxe board from my A7V8X-X Via chipset board.

The Via Chipset worked fine for me but this new nForce chipset is untouchable and now you have me looking at the new nForce3 chipsets.

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SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

Reply to SoDNighthawk

Here's <A HREF="http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=6&aid=883&page=1" target="_new">another</A> SIS 755 review. Seems like it would be the best A64 chipset. Too bad no manufacturers will have SIS 755 boards out for awhile.

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Reply to markgun

are they giving a date we should expect the SIS 755 to come out?

... the dregs of upgrading, you always want to wait a little bit longer for that one part

Reply to Aziboah

I have no idea! Manufacturers are usually kind of slow at releasing SiS based boards; so it may not be worth the wait. The reviews on the retail boards don't exist yet (they're all ref. boards), so it may be awhile.

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Reply to markgun

Looks good;but heres AMD's recommended shuttle mobo for the amd64 3000+

"AMD Athlon™ 64 3000+

ATX Form Factor, Shuttle.

Vendor Model Revision
Form Factor Chipset Bios
No results returned for this motherboard search."

Reply to Snaggle

SiS is better than VIA, always has been. And when you buy SiS you're not financing economic terrorism.

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Reply to Crashman

Yeah, they certinly take thier time. Ill oust the shuttle, Perhaps replace it with the MSI K8T Neo board? Did anyone know if that board is unlocked for overclocking?

by the way, sorry if this is moving off the topic of the forum.

Reply to Aziboah

Yet another incorrect post for SoD.

The nForce3 is not nearly as good as the VIA chipset, that is publicly known...nVidia is the not necessarily leader in graphics GPUs either, 3Dwise they are second to ATi and 2Dwise everyone is second to Matrox, finacially they are #1; the leader is all from perspective, I spend the majority of my CPU time using it as a workstation, so I would lean toward Matrox as the leader, others lean toward ATi, select few (though more than my fellow Matroxites) lean toward nVidia.

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and now you have me looking at the new nForce3 chipsets.


You will need an Athlon 64...which I doubt you knew.


Aziboah: good system!! Gotta love the great buy in the 3000+ A64! I do have to agree with the majority here that the Via chipset is the better way to go, MSI won Tom's latest review in a landslide, too: look for a good deal on it.

Damn Rambus.

Reply to Vapor

Awesome, thanks alot for your reviews. I was probabilly going to switch the memory out for some Mushkin PC3500 Level-II memory, as I was advised it was a better way to go.

I would have felt like an ass if I ordered parts which dident go together. The worst was a few years back when I was still getting into the swing of things, I was putting together two workstations for my dad, and I ordered the wrong socket CPU for the mobo.

" uhh, yeah. I guess they shipped the wrong thing, Dad... "

haha.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Aziboah on 12/18/03 10:53 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to Aziboah

ya... VIA's falling apart slowly. you have CEOs buying houses by 10s in the US, no doubt the company will fall~~

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Reply to coolsquirtle

SiS is making better chipsets than VIA, DFI should have a top notch board with SiS in the near future.

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Reply to Crashman

Where can I find a (p)review of that board??

Damn Rambus.

Reply to Vapor

That Mushkin memory will be better and should come in handy should you decide to overclock...

Quote :

uhh, yeah. I guess they shipped the wrong thing, Dad...


HAHAHAHA! Good excuse!

Damn Rambus.

Reply to Vapor

I was wondering whats a good heatsink and fan for that cpu? And for Thermal Grease, I was going to go with Arctic Silver 5. I will probabilly overclock in the future, but for the time being, ill just run it at normal speeds.

Reply to Aziboah

Sorry, I saw it mentioned in Anandtech a while back and haven't really looked for it. But I've seen 3 reviews now of SiS's 755 reference board.

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Reply to Crashman

The question is that:AMD 64 is not a mark of highest performance,and 64 FX is the king.So i suggest u use Athlon 64 FX51,and it will never disappoint u.

Reply to neveroldmilk

AS5 is the best, but will void AMD's warranty. As for a good HS, not sure, you might want to ask somebody else (something large and copper should do the trick). Getting a silent fan now and maybe a hi-po fan later could prove to be useful in OCing...or an adjustable one to save money.

Damn Rambus.

Reply to Vapor

Except the inital disapointment, of milling my bank account to the bone =) The 3000 will be more then enough, and by the time I need a new one, I will feel I got my moneys worth.

Reply to Aziboah

I give your system a 1.2Q+ rating!

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Reply to dhlucke

I buy for performance not political/economical/social reasons :)

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Reply to shadus

Right now SiS has the fastest chipset for the P4 and the A64.

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Reply to Crashman

it sux...hehe J/k

A fine system.


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Reply to pIII_Man

NVIDIA nForce2 Declared Best Chipset of 2003


Readers of Tom’s Hardware Guide Recognize NVIDIA Platform Technology and Partner Motherboards as Innovations of the Year

For further information, contact:

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NVIDIA Corporation
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

SANTA CLARA, CA—DECEMBER 8, 2003—NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA), the worldwide leader in visual processing solutions, today announced that readers of Tom’s Hardware Guide (www.tomshardware.com), a leading technology Web publication, have recognized NVIDIA nForce™2 media and communication processors (MCPs) as the “best innovation in chipsets” for 2003.

As one of the most influential tech publications on the Internet, Tom’s Hardware Guide delivers hard-hitting reviews and unbiased news to more than 2.5 million visitors a month. The majority of visitors to Tom’s Hardware Guide are tech-savvy PC experts, power buyers and major influencers of technology purchasing decisions—the perfect demographic for evaluating, using and recommending NVIDIA technologies to users on a global basis.

Winning more than 44% of the 20,000 votes cast worldwide, NVIDIA nForce2 technology garnered more votes overall than the next two competitive products combined. In addition, two NVIDIA nForce2-based motherboards—the ASUSTeK A7N8X Deluxe and the DFI LanParty NFII—collected 44.8% of the total votes in the “Best Innovation in Motherboards” category, with the ASUSTeK A7N8X Deluxe ahead of the pack by more than 300%.

“We’re ecstatic that the readers of Tom’s Hardware Guide once again have chosen NVIDIA nForce2 MCPs as their preferred motherboard technology,” said Dan Vivoli, executive vice president of marketing at NVIDIA. “We think our 2004 line-up of products is even more exciting and innovative and we look forward to getting them into the hands of the consumers that typify Tom’s Hardware Guide readership”

For a complete listing of the awards and the voting, please visit www.tomshardware.com.

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Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 KinstonHyperX PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

Reply to SoDNighthawk

Heh, I just talked to a friend of mine that works at a comp usa (I used to work there to, but alas, im free of the demon) and he said he will pricematch newegg.com. haha....

not that comp has a good selection, but it will just make it more convient for some of the items. Just thought it was funny.

Reply to Aziboah

This is what I got from you ? Ya lost me all to hell on this one. Are you replying to me or one of the other fish in this tank ?


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Heh, I just talked to a friend of mine that works at a comp usa (I used to work there to, but alas, im free of the demon) and he said he will pricematch newegg.com. haha....

not that comp has a good selection, but it will just make it more convient for some of the items. Just thought it was funny.


Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 KinstonHyperX PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

Reply to SoDNighthawk

Oh, I just made a general statement and needed some poor,unsuspecting post to reply to =) (I havent seen another way to post other then reply)

Reply to Aziboah

What is your point?

Damn Rambus.

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