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awickedwit895   12-29-2003 at 11:10:32 PM

Hello,
I am going to build a system around the shuttle case(system below). Besides a screwdriver, static wrist band and paste/gel(provided by shuttle from my understanding)to secure CPU, what other items or tools may I need?
thanks


System:
System:
ATI AIW RADEON 9600PRO 128M 8X

CPU AMD 64 3000+ ATHLON 64

Kingston HyperX (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 Model: KHX3200AK2/1G
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6-1T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit

Maxtor 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model 7Y250M0, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 250GB
Average Seek Time: 9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: S.M.A.R.T.

Plextor Black 8X DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model PX-708A/SW-BL, Retail
Specifications:
Model: PX-708A/SW-B
Write Speed: 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 2X DVD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM/CD-R, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: Internal IDE

Shuttle XPC Barebone System for Socket 754 AMD Athlon 64 CPU, Model SN85G4
Specifications:
CPU Support: AMD Athlon 64 CPU (Socket 754, 1600MHz HyperTransport technology)
Chipsets: nVidia nForce3 150
Memory: 2x 184pin (DDR400 up to 2GB)
IDE: 2x ATA133, 2x SATA
Graphics: N/A
Expansion Slot: 1x PCI, 1x AGP 8X
Audio: Realtek ALC 650
LAN: Realtek 8201BL
Extension Bay: 1x 3.5", 1x 5.25"
Front Panel Ports: 2x USB, 1x mini 1394, Audio ports, 6-in-1 card reader
Back Panel Ports: 1x LPT, 1x COM, 2x PS/2, 1x SPDIF_In, 1x SPDIF_Out, 1x RJ45, 1x 1394, 2x USB, Audio ports
Power Supply: 240W(PFC)
Buffer: 2 MB

Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack SP1a - Full Version OEM

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dhlucke   12-30-2003 at 12:30:22 AM
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nothing. grounding strap, thermal paste, and a screwdriver are fine.

It's very easy. A little stressfull the first couple of times, but very easy. Just take your time.

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Rob423   12-30-2003 at 12:48:17 AM
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don't forget needle nose pliers... makes getting your jumpers set nice and easy............ other then that......like said above just be grounded good and you are ok... just touch a bunch of metal and [-peep-] you'll be fine....

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jp5   12-30-2003 at 05:34:53 AM
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good luck!

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silverpig   12-30-2003 at 07:09:50 AM
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Make sure you have 3 different screwdrivers (or at least bits).

You will need a philips head for the case and pci/agp bracket screws, a robertson for... something... motherboard mounts? (I'm too lazy to look), and I find it useful to mount the hs/fan using a flathead to push the clip down.

Some day I'll be rich and famous for inventing a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet.

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Johanthegnarler   12-30-2003 at 07:20:57 AM
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Make sure if you use bits that they aren't magnatized.
I'm hardcore i don't use static guards.
Pushing those jumpers in by hand sucks as well. Needle nose pliers work great.

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1gb rdram pc 800
radeon9800 pro
120gb seagate s-ata

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Schmide   12-30-2003 at 08:08:36 AM
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What's wrong with magnatized bits? It's not like they are going to generate a large enough field to harm anything. It helps a lot to have magnatized bits.

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jihiggs   12-30-2003 at 07:38:20 PM
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i am so sick of people handing out advice that is absolutely useless. its like people think computers are these dainty little daisys that you will break if you sneeze on them!

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zpyrd   12-31-2003 at 03:48:10 AM
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Magnetic multibit screwdriver
#2 Philips screw driver (used where the magnetic multibit is too large for access)
3/16 slot screwdriver (heatsink retention mechanism)
Longnose pliers
Side Cutter
Set of SAE 1/4" sockets or nutdrivers (motherboard standoffs and heat sink mounts)
Vinyl Electrical Tape (used to cushion fans that are screwed to the case)
Wire Ties (to tie off power supply cables)

And a 20oz ballpeen hammer for frustration release.


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Flamethrower205   12-31-2003 at 04:25:44 AM
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See I only use 1 tool: leatherman wave. And it's got a very sharp knife for venting :wink:
BTW, is it me or did they make the A64 hsf's much easier to install?

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ytoledano   12-31-2003 at 04:40:26 PM
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What's the problem with the magnetic bits? I know it sounds bad to put a magnet into all those circuits but I've used them for years with no prob...

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ytoledano   12-31-2003 at 04:44:10 PM
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Isn't a grounding strap overkill? I mean, it's just the same if you touch the computer case, and it's very hard to work on stuff and not touch the case. After you touched the case once there's no way a large enough electrical charge will generate before you touch a component.

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appsdba   12-31-2003 at 04:53:06 PM
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I am building next week and I don't have a fancy grounding strap. I will just touch the case of my Dell (which I am chucking) prior to assembling my new PC. It should be enough. I worked on the Dell plenty by grounding myself by touching the case while power is on. If I am wrong and I will fry the components while building, please tell me now. Also what is this thermal paste? Is this a must?

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ytoledano   12-31-2003 at 04:59:00 PM
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If you buy a retail processor with the packaging and everything you also get a heatsink and fan with thermal paste. If you get the OEM version of the processor it comes with no heatsing and fan and no thermal paste, so you need to get your own (this option is good if you plan on overclocking, if not, go with the first). You can also put third party thermal on the retail version of the processor which will improve cooling a bit, but that's not so important if you don't overclock. Also, if you do plan on overclocking, consider faster RAM.
PS: I know this about Intel CPUs, I'm not sure about the new AMD ones.

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appsdba   12-31-2003 at 05:12:04 PM
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I got it. I ordered all Retail except the XP Pro software. Do I need a grounding strap?

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Flamethrower205   12-31-2003 at 06:44:51 PM
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Stock.

O, btw, he has an nForce 3 mobo...ain't those....icky in the graphics area...

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sjonnie   12-31-2003 at 09:44:19 PM
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Quote :

what other items or tools may I need?


A beer, you'll definitely need a beer, several maybe :)


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Johanthegnarler   01-02-2004 at 02:28:40 AM
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Hell, you think i fear my computer? I'm the kid that fixed his ps2 by throwing it off the balcony. In fact really the only way to damage your computer is bending the little prongs on the bottom of the cpu.
There's your new advice... Don't worry about it. You can't break your computer. :)
Sorry.. magnitized bits i was always afraid of.. even if it doesn't effect it completely i always was taught in electronics class to just don't use them.-I was wrong on that--***just a little fear of mine that i gained from others*****

But you don't have anything to worry about.. and if you break something.. who cares.. it's only money.
What a barton 2500+ isn't even 90 bucks.. I crap 90 dollars and i'm POOR.

p4 2.8 533fsb
intel mobo
1gb rdram pc 800
radeon9800 pro
120gb seagate s-ata

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jihiggs   01-02-2004 at 09:53:47 AM
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damn, if you got 90 bucks laying around and you are poor, what does that make me? i havent seen 90 bucks in a long time.

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HardWareBoss   01-02-2004 at 06:30:15 PM
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Nope they sure don't. We can name a bunch here.

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