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Best LCD for gaming / eye strain

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I am sure this has been answered before but through searching and browsing this forum I haven't come up with a satisfactory response.

I am currently using a 17" CRT monitor that is dying. I've avoided LCD's all these years because everyone I have used has given me headaches and eye strain. I have used crappy ones they had at my old work, my parents have 2 lower end Dells, and my brother has a Dell too. I can't stand staring at either of them for very long... the colors look odd and I can start to feel my eyes hurting.

I am not sure where to go or what to try now. Maybe I should try to find a non-TN LCD monitor? Maybe try an IPS? 120hz? LED back lighting?

If I knew for sure it was brightness or ghosting that killed my head it would seem easy to fix... but the fact is I just don't. I'm also prone to migraines and sensitive to fluorescent lights in stores so price isn't nearly as important to me as comfort. Still, something in the $200-300 range would be best.

Thanks guys.

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Sounds just like me, but maybe with the difference that I have more problems with eye pain than with headaches. I am also sensitive to fluorescent lights. My site should explain a lot: http://vasyafromukraine.webs.com/

I have found an easy solution to my problem and I believe that we share the same problem. After searching for a solution to my problem (for more than a year) I found that the biggest reason for these symptoms is the high frequency flicker of the Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp's backlight of the LCDs. The solution is an LED backlit LCD, but only at full brightness. With 99% and less brightness it is just as bad as any other LCD on the market.

The reason why it's good is that it has no flicker at 100% brightness. It uses Pulse- Width Modulation and flickers when brightness is reduced. But beware, some LEDs even flicker at full brightness.

Brands that claim that their LEDs have no flicker at full brightness are Dell and BenQ. I have had luck with the Asus Eee PC 1005 PX netbook of my niece with full brightness.

To make it less bright (many with this problem are sensitive to bright light) you can lower the brightness in the graphic card's menu, usually situated on the right end of the task bar in windows (this will not influence the PWM) or use a dark anti-glare screen that was made for CRTs. The brightness has only to be set to 100% in the displays menu.

I would recommend LEDs with S-PVA, P-MVA, or IPS panels, because they have no dithering, which is similar to flicker.

Good luck!

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I would recommend LEDs with S-PVA, P-MVA, or IPS panels, because they have no dithering, which is similar to flicker.



All current monitors that have LED backlight only use TN panels (to the best of my knowledge).


TN panels and only truly create 256k colors. To bring that number up to about 16.7m colors TN panels use temporal dithering to create colors it cannot normally produce on it's own. Temporal dithering flashes quickly between two colors to fool the brain it is seeing a 3rd color.

For example, let's say a TN panel cannot create purple on it own. Using temporal dithering, the TN panel will quickly flash between red and blue so that your brain thinks it is seeing solid purple.

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All current monitors that have LED backlight only use TN panels.


TN panels and only truly create 256k colors. To bring that number up to about 16.7m colors TN panels use temporal dithering to create colors it cannot normally produce on it's own. Temporal dithering flashes quickly between two colors to fool the brain it is seeing a 3rd color.

For example, let's say a TN panel cannot create purple on it own. Using temporal dithering, the TN panel will quickly flash between red and blue so that your brain thinks it is seeing solid purple.



Thanks jaguarskx! I wonder why LED monitors only use TN panels. A solution, if one is bothered by the dithering, would be to use the monitor with 256k colors instead of 32 bit. The screen would look differently, but the problem would be solved.

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The BenQ EW2420 is a VA LED backlit panel.


as to the brightness adjustment, monitor controls should allow you to edit the RGB levels, just decrease those to change the 'brightness' the actual brightness adjustment only determines how bright the backlight is, changing the RGB to be lower blocks more of the light from getting out therefore lowering brightness .


120hz wo'n't help with eyestrain, the backlight is what would strain your eyes from flickering, due to the persitance of pixels in LCDs the image is just like looking at paper its the backlight that will strain the eyes which is normally at 200hz,
i'd assume therefore that LED backlit displays use higher frequency LEDs, i'd recommend you check with the manafacturer what the actual frequency is unless you can find some specs somewhere on the web.

You may also want to check the anti-glare coating as well, they do mess with some peoples eyes (some are rather grainy and attract the eyes meaning your eyes are constantly flicking between the anti-glare coating and the image, may also have the same problem with reflections, best the eliminate the possibility of glare and get rid of the coating really)


Personally i have a dell u2410 with anti-glare removed and all sources of light being direct away from the monitor.
first LCD monitor i've felt is less fatiguing to use than the sony GDM FW900 CRT

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The BenQ EW2420 is a VA LED backlit panel.






Ahh.. So it is.

And here's a review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_ew2420.htm

However, it isn't the best for gaming since there is a decent amount of ghosting; more than on the Dell U2410.


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Just want to say that the Asus Eee PC 1005 PX netbook that I mentioned turned out to be bad for me after all. It probably flickers even at full brightness. Just so you know.

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Hi there I have problem with my new LED from BENQ, wassja you have any idea about some settings with the graphic card, I tried some but it doesn't looks well... and should i search for anti-glare ? tnx to everyone

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Hi there I have problem with my new LED from BENQ, wassja you have any idea about some settings with the graphic card, I tried some but it doesn't looks well... and should i search for anti-glare ? tnx to everyone



I don't know what kind of problem you have. I assume eye pain. If you have the same problem with eye pain that I have with certain lights that just happen to have flicker in common, then I see the following possibilities to solve your problem or at least to lessen it:

- use your LED with maximum brightness. If it has the "backlight " option in its menu, use the monitor with maximum backlight.

It is possible that the monitor will have 0 flicker, but there is no guarantee.

- use a darkened piece of glass or plastic, or a darkened anti-glare screen to make the screen less bright, without touching the monitor's maximum backlight/ brightness setting.

The darkened material will make the not-so-black pixels in the LCD look black and the light that used to come through the black pixels will stop hurting your eyes. You will have dark areas on the screen, almost like in CRTs. If the LED uses local dimming, the pixels will look black without the tinted screen, but the tint will still make a positive difference in regards to making the screen less blight with the full brightness/backlight setting. If the monitor still has flicker with these settings, then it still will be a better kind of flicker with a better duty cycle of the PWM.

My personal experience with a CCFL LCD with PWM is that a could use it with maximum brightness for about 6 minutes without feeling pain in my eyes, but I could only use the monitor with minimum brightness for about 10 seconds the day before (if I remember correctly).

Lowering the brightness, contrast, RGB, gamma settings of your graphic card will help a bit, but the screen will look ugly if you lower it too much and there still will be too much light coming through the pixels. The tinted material solution is a much better method. It shouldn't be reflective.

Using warm colors also helps a little. The less blue in the monitor, the longer I can sit with it. But the thing that helps the most is the absence of flicker or making the flicker a bit less bad.

I am currently using a modified LCD that works with incandescent light bulbs. I can use it for more that 10 hours a day if I have to, but couldn't and still can't use the same monitor with its original CCFL backlight for 10 minutes without my eyes getting tired.

I hope this helps. I won't able to give further advice, because I won't be on the Internet for don't know how long. The Internet connection is too slow and expensive and I only have to pay for it when I use it, so I'm deciding not to use it.

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