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CPU Reviews comparison (R03)

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January 7, 2004 1:19:13 PM

I decided to compile the data from different review. Because, since a couple of weeks many people complain about the quality of CPU reviews at THG (myself included).

I compiled the data from 7 sites that have done DivX 5.1 and 5.11 video compression comparison. Here are the normalized data (reference A64 3400+) :

DivX 5.1/5.11 normalized performance :
107% - P4EE 3.2GHz
105% - P4C 3.2GHz
101% - FX-51
100% - A64 3400+
100% - P4C 3.0GHz
93% - A64 3200+
87% - XP 3200+

And here comes the funny stuff . I found that NordicHardware and ExtremeTech clearly favor AMD products both of these sites gave AMD first place in DivX encoding. On the other hand AnandTech results clearly over-rate Intel products.

DivX 5.1/5.11 normalized price/performance :
168% - XP 3200+
155% - P4C 3.0GHz
147% - A64 3200+
112% - P4C 3.2GHz
100% - A64 3400+
65% - FX-51
47% - P4EE 3.2GHz

When we add price, we get a completly different picture. All the HIGH-END CPU’s are overpriced for the advantage they will gives to buyer’s. Ironically, the XP 3200+ comes first, at a price 219$US. If Video Encoding it’s a priority I would recommend to buy P4C 3.0GHz (at 275$US it’s a good bargain for PowerVideoUser).

UT2003 normalized performance :
102% - FX-51
100% - A64 3400+
93% - A64 3200+
82% - P4EE 3.2GHz
82% - XP 3200+
79% - P4C 3.2GHz
77% - P4C 3.0GHz
74% - P4C 2.8GHz

UT2003 normalized price/performance :
159% - XP 3200+
150% - P4C 2.8GHz
147% - A64 3200+
119% - P4C 3.0GHz
100% - A64 3400+
84% - P4C 3.2GHz
65% - FX-51
36% - P4EE 3.2GHz

Here the only overpriced CPU’s are the P4EE and FX-51. And the XP 3200+ (219$US) wins in this category, closely followed by the P4C 2.8 GHz (210$US). Overall the A64 3200+ (270$US)is a great performer for the price. I would recommend it to PowerGamer.

TOP 3 REVIEWER’S :
1. Xbits Labs - XbitLabs is right on the target. The normalized results are almost identical to the XbitLabs results.
2. Hardware.fr (french site) / AnandTech - Their results are near the normalized results.
3. THG - Results are near normalized results but THG did not included Athlon FX and P4EE in their latest tests.

In the weird category comes HotHardware that gave the XP3200+ less than 1% difference in performance with the 3400+ and NordicHardware gave the same XP3200+ a difference of 24% in performance in the DivX compression test.


CONCLUSION

Based on these 2 bench, I can clearly say that FX-51 and P4EE are only marketing products. Because, it would be useless to buy those CPU unless you have too much money to spend. These products exists to « flash », like Ferrari’s, you don’t buy them only for speed, you buy them for « prestige ». But, in the CPU market, « prestige » don’t last long. So it’s worthless to spend money on these products.

And, depending on what you do with your PC, you can come with very different conclusion. It’s why in UT2003 the P4C 3.2GHz takes the last place, it’s price don’t justify it’s performance. And in video encoding the A64 3400+ get the same treatment.

I will try to add more benchmarks/CPU’s in my next revisions. I wish you appreciate this!

REVISIONS :
01 - Added results/comments about Hardware.fr.
02 - Added UT2003 results.
03 - Price/performance ratio added (2004/01/16)

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheRod on 01/16/04 02:19 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
January 7, 2004 1:55:34 PM

Oh, ok so this is something like a benchmark to benchmark benchmarking sites, right?

*strokes the rod*

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January 7, 2004 2:02:55 PM

Good Work Man! Keep it coming. I look forward to the gaming benchies. :) 

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January 7, 2004 2:19:48 PM

I will try to add 3DMark 2001 and 03 ASAP (because they are very popular). But it takes some time to compile all the data. I use www.amdzone.com to get links to the latest reviews and I use EXCEL spreadsheet to calculate normalized results.

I will also add a PRICE/PERFORMANCE charts. I really want to gives a great view in terms of performance and in term of pricing too! Because I don't think P4EE and FX-51 are worth the money, except where time is big money!

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January 7, 2004 2:23:48 PM

Very nice!

-taitertot

If this post has attitude, seems to be overly aggressive, rude, distasteful to 99% of the users here, and shows a zealous defense of Intel... It’s probably Spud.
January 7, 2004 2:24:50 PM

Yup!

Kind of, because I'm tired of getting different results/views. So, if I manage to compile enough data, I will be able to write good conclusions based on multiple opinions.

And by normalizing the results, I find it more clear! Because everything is based on percentage.

This mean that we can tell, is it worth X % more money for Y % more performance.

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January 8, 2004 1:21:16 PM

I just added UT2003 to my post... Check it!

I have a crazy idea to build a PHP/MySQL site where iI would collect reviews results get an overall pictures of benchmarking in the Internet.

It would include normalized results and recommendation based on it. Of course, I would credits all the site that actually do test. The only concern I have is about data collection, it would be a big job at first... I think this could be an interesting approach.

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheRod on 01/08/04 10:22 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
January 8, 2004 1:30:17 PM

i think Xbitlabs is good review site also.
January 8, 2004 1:51:14 PM

excellent work. Keep it up. :smile:

And on reading the thread title I thought it was going to be another rant. Sorry about that. :wink:

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January 8, 2004 2:45:31 PM

Funny, but I think this would make a great web-site Showing Benchmarks like this.
January 8, 2004 2:54:55 PM

Something like "Rod's Hardware Guide Guide"... :lol: 

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January 8, 2004 3:02:40 PM

HE HE HE!!! I'm not sure I would keep "Rod" or the "TheRod", because I chose this nick because my usual one was already used here.

LEKO is my usual nick... TheRod sounds more "mechanic" and with somy twist this sound "sexual". My little sister nick is "Rod" (my last name is Rodrigue).

I could call my web page :
"HardRod" (I just found a "Hard Rod Cafe", a gay Cafe, not a good name for a Web Site)
"TheRod" (This one is better)

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January 16, 2004 5:20:53 PM

Just a post, to get back to top! I just updated my "CPU Reviews comparison".

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