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January 11, 2004 2:19:59 AM

I had to yank the Kingston ram out of the A7N8X Deluxe and AMD 3200+ set-up the memory started to fail after running it in the Aggressive settings in the bios. It started to fail about 5 minutes at the desktop.

We changed it to Crucial Memory at 512MB 184-Pin DIMM 64Mx64 DDR 400 PC3200 and everything we throw at it runs perfectly.

Best memory we have used in Dual Channel in a A7N8X Deluxe motherboard.

The memory is not even sold in a matched set-up but it performs wonderfully in that respect.

WWW.CRUCIAL.COM You will be glad you did in so many ways, and it is cheaper then both the Kingston or Corsair memory and we think that is only because it does not have the fancy aluminium heat spreaders on them.

Well screw the RAM heat sinks apparently the Crucial rams CHIPS WORK unlike the Kingston stuff or some of the limitations in memory sizes available by Corsair and the High Cost of that ram.

HAWKS PIC OF THE YEAR....CRUCIAL RAM

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

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January 11, 2004 5:45:04 AM

I've been mentioning that for YEARS. Crucial takes modules other companies might program (SPD) as Cas2 or Cas2.5 and programs them as Cas3. The reason of course to to provide stability on any system at SPD defaults. Many users used to set tighter timings on Crucial memory, with great success.

That's why I always recommend it to people who don't have the inclination to mess with timings and voltage in order to get their memory to work.

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January 11, 2004 10:52:19 AM

We let the RAM default to best settings took a look at those numbers and could not set them any better so we popped the memory into a SPD role then set all the other settings into a run in Aggressive Mode.

Aida32 claims the CAS is 3.0 and the working MHz is 200. You cant go wrong on those settings.

I used a type J thermal couple with a meter and very carefully got the probe onto the side of a ram chip with some cap-ton tape.

The memory seems to hold a steady 25 C well below either the CPU under load at 45 C or the motherboard at around 32 C.

SO much for fancy heat sinks on memory chips that do not even work!!

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
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January 11, 2004 10:58:44 AM

Yeah, Crucial rocks, do they make PC4000, 4200 or 4400?

Oh, and who's "We"?

Got a nice overclocked overvolted system to keep you warm at night? That's great. Guess I'll have to settle for a woman...
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a b } Memory
January 11, 2004 1:15:15 PM

Heatsinks do help when a product is overclocked. For example most PC4000 is based on 5ns chips, overvolted by user settings for stability, and would get quite hot without them.

Which brings us back to Crucial, made to operate perfectly at SPD values on nearly any platform without tinkering.

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January 11, 2004 2:53:03 PM

Below is what Aida32 is reporting on that Crucial Ram. I cant copy paste both 512MB sticks, this is a copy paste of 1 of them but they both read the same.

It says to go to Micron and I checked it out... Crucial is a division of Micron. I had to cut the memory chips out of the heavy plastic packages. In fact they have tear TABS on the top and left & right corner you need to rip out in order to open the packages. Anyways its says in the lower right hand corner CRUCIAL technology A Division of Micron.

PN: CT6464Z40B

Memory Module Properties
Module Name Micron Tech. 16VDDT6464AG-40BCB
Serial Number 1E20B7FEh
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 3.0 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (6.0 ns @ 166 MHz)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Micron Technology, Inc.
Product Information http://www.micron.com/products/category.jsp?path=/DRAM

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
January 11, 2004 3:16:54 PM

Which Kingston ram did you use?
January 11, 2004 3:25:00 PM

Go here BOSS and look at the Dual Channel kit...

http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/default.asp

That is the one we used first time it seemed ok until we stated to run the special overclocking options in the A7N8X Deluxe motherboards BIOS.

We ran the BIOS in the AGGRESSIVE option. AUTO/Aggressive/manual. In auto it ran ok in Manual it even ran the set-ups we tried but in the aggressive setting the ram folded like a house of cards.

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
January 11, 2004 3:29:38 PM

Gee Oced my 2.4C to 3.0 runs great. Using HyperX PC3500.
January 11, 2004 3:33:51 PM

Oops this kit was the exact one we had.

KHX3200AK2/1G 1024MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 DIMM (Kit of 2 - 512MB)

Does not work in the A7N8X Deluxe motherboard at some settings with a AMD PC3200+

Does not work at all with a A7N8X Deluxe and a AMD 2800+ CPU the motherboard would not even boot/post we had to use Corsair matched DDR400 to get that set-up to run.

Later I chose the Crucial over the cost of the Corsair for the AMD 3200+ set-up and I have never been so pleased with memory before in my life this stuff took to the A7N8X like a dog to water, and it is not even a matched set simply two 512MB sticks in separate retail packs from the same manufacturer www.crucial.com P/N: CT6464Z40B

I really really really wanted the dual channel kit from Kingston in my new 3200+ P.C because of the heat sinks/spreaders and it looked good as well....but the [-peep-] don't work!!

Reminds me of that Rolling Stones Song.. Some time you don't get what you want but you get what you need.

Crucial is what I needed thank you Crucial CHEERS!!

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
January 11, 2004 4:06:36 PM

Does your rig have the special nforce2 chip-set option to use the aggressive setting that automaticaly takes all hardware devices Board/CPU/Memory and sets the whole system to run in an overclocked mode best adapted to all number crunching applicable ?

That is the up side of the A7N8X Deluxe.

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9@80Gig
SONY CD 52x
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
January 12, 2004 10:46:58 AM

And i should care why?

Quote:
Yeah, Crucial rocks, do they make PC4000, 4200 or 4400?

This here is an amazingly dumb statement. Crucial does not make overclockers ram, they make memory that will be as stable as possible. PC4000 ram will NOT always run pc4000 speeds, hence crucial does not mark up their ram to hit those speeds. In fact on many reviews i have seen even the most expensive pc4200 and pc4000 modules do fail memtest while running those speeds. Also crucial only sells ram that meets jedec standards. This is why it took them so long to produce pc3200 ram, because jdec took quite a while to adopt that speed, the reason why crucial has not made cas 2 pc3200 ram is because jedec has yet to set a standard.


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110% BX fanboy
January 12, 2004 12:25:02 PM

Yeah, who's "We"? "They"'ve saying it too much.

And what's up with his capitalization?!

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
January 12, 2004 2:10:07 PM

I used crucial ram in my old system (PC2100). Stuck it in my Abit NF7 rev2 a while back to give it some stick. Reached 200 MHz 1:1 @CAS2.5 / 3 / 3 / 8 not very stable but pretty funny for CAS2.5 133MHz memory lmao!

However CAS3.0/2.5 is not what i intended to stick in my new rig. Mushkin PC3500 Level II BH5 is my weapon of choice at the moment. Runs at anything you chuck at it.

200MHz 1:1 @CAS2/2/2/5 and upto 236MHz @CAS2/2/2/5 (2.6 ~ 2.9V). Not too shabby kicks out over 3620MB/s in sandra 2004 int. Bloody expensive tho :o 

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