i915 and i925X, Grantsdale/Alderwood: Expected +5%

There you go... Anandtech posted some news saying that some sources indicate alderwood will be 5% faster than canterwood, and grantsdale should only be as fast as Canterwood.

This, of course, doesn't sound very precise, because it doesn't state anything about DDR-II 533Mhz being used, or whatever...

But if +5% comes from alderwood, and the P4EE is faster than prescott, then will P4EE at 3.4Ghz or even 3.6Ghz in an Alderwood chipset be able to counter FX-53 at 2.4Ghz and 1MB cache, possibly with 1000Mhz HT bus?... Does Intel have anything else up their sleeve? If so, will they be in such a bad position as to use it?...

Makes us curious, doesn't it?... It's hard to resist speculating... I won't even try it...

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

I can agree that this sounds true. You will soon have the prescott cpu that will only run on certain canterwood motherboards as of now. With the Grantsdale you'll get native support with a couple extra goodies.. maybe. Next comes Tejas cpu that will not work with Grantsdale due to LGA factor, enters Alderwood with PCI-X through out, PCI-X VGA support, DDR-II memory. In the end P4 will replace celeron as the low cost chip, 2nd comes Prescott for middle range business market-speed at a resonable cost, and finally Tejas- with a preimium for the must have computer user. I848,I865,I875 [Canterwoods], I890 [Grantsdale], I900 [Alderwood]. Also dont forget the new BTX form factor is going to come out Intel product.

So that makes 5 chipsets, 5 different processors, 2 different memory types, 2 different graphic types, 2 different ATA types, 5 different Form Factors, 3 different monitor types, seems like they really want to confuse people and this is just the desktop arena. Not to bust on Intel but AMD is doing simular stuff. Barton, 64, FX-51, FX-53 and mix in all the same factors, types etc. into the mix and you have this stew effect. 2 different manufactures with 30 different ways to get one system. Each increasing the clock speed every few months on each part of the system. In the end everything still is to fast for the software its meant to run and people just fork over the money.

Things look promising for Prescott and tejas. Prescott is already 5-10% faster than Northwood with unoptimized software, and the diff could be even greater with SSE3 and now Grantsdale and Alderwood should provide even greater boost.

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well don't forget, Prescott has bigger L1, and L2 caches physically so that's gotta account for something.

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Erm... You're really being the pessimist here! Wait for it to flop before saying it does. A Willy? Now that is old. And bad. Seriously?...

I remember a review of the 1.6Ghz A64 we saw on anandtech once... It didn't look too promising, and that was weeks before launch. So that didn't turn out to be a reasonable impression either, did it?...

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

Northwood turned out to be a good processor per-clock. How did your pessimism turn out then?

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

Yeah... That actually sounds reasonable!

But, for competition and for us consumers, let's hope you're terribly wrong this time.

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

That a big assumtion from intel.My guess intel run I875 on intel validate module most of them run with slower timing.Alderwood might have cache on chip for pre-fetch like R659.I any case i will be really surprise if intel can produce a faster chipset with DDR-2 that actual I875.

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