Do not buy AMD

wait until Feb 15 or maybe earlier, there is a <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=1958&p=2" target="_new">price drop</A>

wish if there was UnDo in the life

You might want to change the Title to something like mine...no point in starting a flamewar with people because they didn't read your actual post.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

i did not post that to begin flamewar, it is a piece of usefull info i wanted as much as users have an idea about it

wish if there was UnDo in the life

good god people, its fine the way it is. it got your attention didnt it? i bet you had weapons drawn before you even clicked the link didnt you?

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Oh oops!

or was I supposed to say "my baby shot me down"?

hmm... I'm so confused these days.


<b><font color=red>"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."</font color=red><font color=blue> - Benjamin Franklin</font color=blue></b>

i wonder if they are going to reduce the prices a lot. If yes then intel is realy gonna get his ass kicked in the budget range...

Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb pc3200 (3-3-3-2), Asus A7N8X-X<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by coylter on 02/04/04 05:21 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

the title is fine, its funny

not like hes spreading false info or anything

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Uh-oh....

<font color=blue>War</font color=blue> <font color=orange>Eagle</font color=orange>

The P4EE is better, if all you want to do is brag about how much you spent on your rig.

P4's were going for $800.00 Can up here Endy should I have built 2 computers and spent $1600.00 dollars just on CPU's or was it better that I built my wife a new XP2800+ then myself a new XP 3200+ for $800.00 in change for both CPU's.

Besides my computer is for gaming and I would never buy an Intel CPU for gaming they could have had a P4 at a garage sale for 20 bucks and I would have picked it up but I would NOT use it for gaming.

I could overclock it I suppose and use it as a coffee warmer That is about all they are good for aside from a business computer.

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid 12 Celsius
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Two Maxtor 40Gig 8MB cach 7200rpm
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by SoDNighthawk on 02/05/04 08:01 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

No, he runs it at stock because he has no clue on how to overclock properly.

We're talking about someone that 'overclocks' his video card by overclocking the AGP bus.

<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>

Humm...

So why watercool, if you don't overclock? When have you bought your Barton 3200+?

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?

Do you not need a fan on a water cooler's radiator? Would that not then be outside of the computer case instead of inside where the case can muffle the noise? Am I mistaken? I do not see how water cooling is quieter than good air cooling with a large low RPM fan.


"Sad is the elephant upon the ice who went to put on his wooly coat only to realize that he left it in his other trunk." - DeEvolution

I am confused. With or without water cooling, would you not still have all of those fans anyway? I thought that water cooling only cooled the processor.

Of course if noise were a problem for people there are fanless video cards (not good ones, but in the Geforce MX range) and fanless motherboards. You could purchase a case with one or two low RPM 120mm fans and a quiet power supply. Then use as many fanless components as possible. With or without water cooling that should be a much quieter computer than most, no? I just did not think that the processor's fan by itself made all that much of a difference in the grand scheme of computer fan noise.


"Sad is the elephant upon the ice who went to put on his wooly coat only to realize that he left it in his other trunk." - DeEvolution

Ok again I can say it, I have cooling fans on my graphics card the primary one then I also bolted a secondary fan above it that blows heat away from the card. I also used 2 stage epoxy and very carefully cut and fit heat sinks to fit exactly onto each memory chip for the card.

I have a CPU cooler over a FULL SOLID COPPER heat sink from SILENT BOOST running @ 21 dba attached to the top of the water cooling block on the CPU and next to that I have a Cooling fan blowing down directly on top of the Motherboard chipset heat sink. I also have that fan blowing onto the heat sinks attached to my dual 512MB DDR400 Ram sticks.

I also have a case fan blowing all extra air right out the back of the case. My Enermax Power supply is the 465 version with adjustable fan control and it has 2 fans built into that one drawing heat up off the motherboard and the other one blowing out the back of the P.C.

All of that and I can hardly hear my PC running if the T.V is on in the room next to the computer room. I did not build the case specifically for overclocking but I have had it for over 4 years it was a college project in an upgrading course I took for work.

I use the case and water cooling because I have the option to and at this point see absolutely no need to overclock the XP 3200+ as it games out the ass and I win every damn map every damn game I play in Day Of Defeat.

I have never operated any computer Intel or AMD that preformed like this A7N8X Deluxe Motherboard ver2.0 and my new 3200+ AMD CPU. Simply outstanding all around performance.

I am showing current BIOS confirmed by Aida32 of thease values;

Motherboard temp is 20 C
CPU Temp is 12 C
CPU Diode Temp is 15 C


Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid 12 Celsius
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Two Maxtor 40Gig 8MB cach 7200rpm
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

Hey sod, you should be able to get another xp3200+ soon. The price at Atic in Vancouver has hit $286can.

If it's new and is enough for you now then don't overclock it. OC it whenever you feel the need.
You have the privilage to do it.

A fine day!