Best Replacement for Win Restore? (& Win Forum suggestions)

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Have gotten the impression that Windows Restore "point" can not always
be relied on to do what it is supposed to do. What are the best
replacements for it ("purchase" software; shareware; and/or freeware).

And, what are the better *sites* on the web where this kind of thing is
discussed? (Just found "KickstartNews.com" & "Windows Users Group
Network" but haven't had the time yet to check them out, so looking for
some suggestions.)

Thank you, people

Christopher A. Steele
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System Restore does exactly what it is designed to do and nothing more.
System Restore keeps a backup copy of critical system files so that, should
you somehow damage them or alter them in a manner that you don't like, you
can those system files.

System Restore was NOT designed to backup or restore data or (most) program
files.

Microsoft Backup WAS designed to backup or restore data. Because MS Backup
does not backup to/from CD or DVD, many people prefer to use a third-party
utility, such as "BackUp My PC", located here:
http://www.stompsoft.com/backupmypc.html?SourceID=knc_goog_backup_my_pc

steve


<casteele95thbgheavy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Have gotten the impression that Windows Restore "point" can not always
> be relied on to do what it is supposed to do. What are the best
> replacements for it ("purchase" software; shareware; and/or freeware).
>
> And, what are the better *sites* on the web where this kind of thing is
> discussed? (Just found "KickstartNews.com" & "Windows Users Group
> Network" but haven't had the time yet to check them out, so looking for
> some suggestions.)
>
> Thank you, people
>
> Christopher A. Steele
> casteele95thbgheavy
> at
> yahoo
> you know the rest
>
 
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casteele95thbgheavy wrote:
> Have gotten the impression that Windows Restore "point" can not always
> be relied on to do what it is supposed to do. What are the best
> replacements for it ("purchase" software; shareware; and/or freeware).
>
> And, what are the better *sites* on the web where this kind of thing
> is discussed? (Just found "KickstartNews.com" & "Windows Users Group
> Network" but haven't had the time yet to check them out, so looking
> for some suggestions.)

What are you wanting to *use* the System restore for?

It only does what it claims to - backup and allow the restoration of SYSTEM
files - not your files, not your settings (most of the time) etc. Just
files critical for system functionality. And yes - you are correct - 100%
reliable it is not.

You should supplement with a backup regime.

The system restore feature is a new one - first appearing in Windows
ME and then sticking around for Windows XP. It is a useful feature
if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage. Remember that
the system restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects
which is 'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is
NOT system files - so you should also look into some backup solution.

Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine
once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore
and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage

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Christopher,

If you're looking for a backup solution (windows Restore is not one)
then you might want to consider that disk crash is probably the most
common cause of complete data loss. You'll be well served to come up
with some kind of automated backup to a second drive (or second
computer over the network). Here's a roundup of freeware backup tools
that will get you started:

http://free-backup.info/backup-software.htm

- Chad
 
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If you're looking for something to restore your entire windows installation,
and applications before you or something else broke any part of it, system
restore or windows backup will not always do that.

Many rely on imaging software that does a good job. Its no nonsense, to the
point, quick and easy for most.
How often and when you backup it is critical just like a system restore
point, or when you did the last MS backup.
<casteele95thbgheavy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126380858.242679.85760@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Have gotten the impression that Windows Restore "point" can not always
> be relied on to do what it is supposed to do. What are the best
> replacements for it ("purchase" software; shareware; and/or freeware).
>
> And, what are the better *sites* on the web where this kind of thing is
> discussed? (Just found "KickstartNews.com" & "Windows Users Group
> Network" but haven't had the time yet to check them out, so looking for
> some suggestions.)
>
> Thank you, people
>
> Christopher A. Steele
> casteele95thbgheavy
> at
> yahoo
> you know the rest
>
 
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chad wrote:
> If you're looking for a backup solution (windows Restore is not one)
> then you might want to consider that disk crash is probably the most
> common cause of complete data loss. You'll be well served to come up
> with some kind of automated backup to a second drive (or second
> computer over the network). Here's a roundup of freeware backup tools
> that will get you started:
>
> http://free-backup.info/backup-software.htm

Chad,

Nice one. Mind if I start using that link?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html