New Developer Needs Help

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Hi,
I develop financial software for windows. I have a small Java Version
that I think might make a nice app for the Treo 650. What I am
looking for is a bare minimum list of tools that I need to accomplish
this -- and where to get them.
I've been all over the net and quite frankly it's a little
overwhelming. I'm a little "old school" as far as tools are
concerned. I develop with a command line compiler and linker with VI
as my editor.
I have downloaded the PalmSource Developers Suite but it doesn't have
a Java project builder.
Is there a list of a couple of tools that can take an existing Java
program and create a viable Palm application?

Also, if you have time the same for a simple "C" development.

Thanks,
jw

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In article <1mnrd.10526$xk5.4225@trnddc09>, jw wrote:
> I develop financial software for windows. I have a small Java Version
> that I think might make a nice app for the Treo 650.

Look up 'J2ME', Java 2 Micro Edition, and 'MIDP', the Mobile Information
Device Profile. Basically a subset of 'full' Java. Writing to this spec
will allow it to run on a very wide range of hardware, including phones.

http://www.palmone.com/us/support/jvm/
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/java/
Some basic info.

http://www.superwaba.com.br/en/default.asp
Relatively large subset of Java, open-source.

http://www.javamobiles.com/jvm.html
Other alternatives.

--
Sincerely,

Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

Modern deductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply
for grant. 3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise hypothesis.
5) Backdate revised hypothesis. 6) Publish.

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Have you looked at JUMP? Unlike some of the other solutions this won't
require Java to be installed on the target Palm, saving each end-user $6 as
well as a major impediment for people to try your application before
purchasing it.
http://jump.sourceforge.net/

Jonathan

"jw" <jw@unearthly.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I develop financial software for windows. I have a small Java Version
> that I think might make a nice app for the Treo 650. What I am
> looking for is a bare minimum list of tools that I need to accomplish
> this -- and where to get them.
> I've been all over the net and quite frankly it's a little
> overwhelming. I'm a little "old school" as far as tools are
> concerned. I develop with a command line compiler and linker with VI
> as my editor.
> I have downloaded the PalmSource Developers Suite but it doesn't have
> a Java project builder.
> Is there a list of a couple of tools that can take an existing Java
> program and create a viable Palm application?
>
> Also, if you have time the same for a simple "C" development.
>
> Thanks,
> jw
>
>

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"Mike (remove XX's to reply)" <aXXeneXXas@gwis.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.superwaba.com
>

I want to thank all of you who replied with information and links for
me.
So far I have manange the following:
Converted a C program that I need for my software business to Java.
Used Jump and related tools to create the .prc file and then installed
it in the Colbalt Simulator that comes with the PalmSource Developer
Suite.
Actually was fairly painless. I have a feeling that the Java Program
that I want to develop for the Treo 650 is going to be somewhat more
difficult. It is GUI and graphics intensive.
At any rate, my question now is as follows. The Colbalt Simulator
that comes with PalmSource doesn't have a web browser or e-mail
included -- or did I miss something? Are there any prcs out there
that I can download to use on the simulator. Are there any other
Simulators or emulators that I can use for the Treo 650.

Also, I downloaded the superwaba stuff but haven't had a chance to
look at it.

Thanks again for all of the previous help and am looking forward to
the help coming on this post.

jw

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> For those of you following this adventure. I found the browser and
> installed it.
> Now my problem is I cannot figure out how to simulate getting on the
> Internet with it through the Simulator.
> I have both dial-up and DSL but how do I get the simulator to
> recognize either of these?
>
> jw
>
>

Well I figured that out. More like stumbled onto the solution by
intuition and fiddling.
Now I need to find an the e-mail solution for the simulator and then I
can start developing.
If anyone reads this before I figure it and can save me some time I
would appreciate it.

Thanks,
jw

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>> > Well I figured that out. More like stumbled onto the solution by
> > intuition and fiddling.
> > Now I need to find an the e-mail solution for the simulator and
then I
> > can start developing.
> > If anyone reads this before I figure it and can save me some time
I
> > would appreciate it.
>
"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
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> Are you using any of the developer forums at www.palmsousorce.com?
There is
> also a pretty good knowlege base that you can search.

Yes, I have been all over the Internet and that Forum and a couple of
Forums related to the Treo's.
My problem is that I am always in a hurry. I am new and the terms and
models are not that familiar to me yet.
For instance, Yesterday I stumbled our how to redirect the Browser on
the simulator through the modem on my PC.
Apparently when you exit the Cobalt simulator it doesn't save the
settings. Today for the life of me I can't get back to that point.
Yesterday I also downloaded a trial version of an email client,
installed it on the simulator and could not get it to work with the
modem on my PC. Also, each time I exit out of the simulator the email
client goes away.
The pages on PalmSource and the Forum have not yet addressed any of
these issues. I did enter a Help request on the forum - but I have a
feeling the regulars are kinda tired of us newbies coming in and
having them answer our questions without any blood on our hands from
digging.
I have got most of the parts I need to start but I need to get the
simulator in a stable state. I can't be spending all of my
re-entering all of this stuff. So I need to find out how to get the
simulator to save it's state. It runs in my mind the Palm emulators
ask you if you want to save the state on exit. Any help on this.

Thanks,
jw

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"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
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> In article <Svlsd.844$jY1.294@trnddc07>, "jw" <jw@unearthly.net>
wrote:
>
> > Apparently when you exit the Cobalt simulator it doesn't save the
> > settings. Today for the life of me I can't get back to that
point.
>
> As I understand it, and I'm not a developer but do work with them,
the
> Cobalt Simulator does not save settings in its default "mode." But
you can
> write some simple things to make it save those settings. The
documentation
> is there somewhere ..

After reading the docs it seems that all I should have to do is -
right click -- choose Save Storage -- and save it to a *.ssf file.
The problem is when I do this I get an error about 50% of the time
when I try to load it back in.
Today it seems OK. Yesterday it seemed like nothing got saved.

jw.