AMD design will kill competition

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[CaptainNemo]

That's a bit gloomy; perhaps some mad person will build a supercomputer cluster out of ARM based PDAs and slay the evil x86 monster...

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[P4Man]

I read it, and I don't believe it. Neither IA64, SPARC or Power are going anywhere for at least another decade. intel and HP would rather die then give up IA64 -seriously, imagine being an HP customer that is now being forced to shift from PA Risc to IA64.. are you going to tell this customer IA64 will be put on life support ? Don't think so.. if IA64 dies, so does HP in the server market. Sparc is also very much alive and kicking... well, its roadmaps are. And Power, if anything, will gain marketshare, just look at those PowerPC based consoles (PS3, Xbox, ..)

Nah, x86-64 is not going to take over the world; software is just too important, if it werent, SPARC would have been dead and burried for years. Marketshares may shift further in favour of x86(-64), probably at the expense of PA Risc (EOL), MIPS (EOL), Alpha (EOL) and SPARC, but that has been happening for the last decade or so. If anything, x86-64 may stop IA-64 from conquering the entire PA Risc, MIPS and Alpha market.

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[Mephistopheles]

(I've read that before already)

Wow, that is one ambicious prediction!

One that is so bold and daring that I think I'll dismiss it for the time being. I could be wrong, but... don't think so.

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[sirak]

Interesting view on the influence of AMD beating out Intel for a cheap 64-bit chip. Could be true, but Intel will always have the fastest processor

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[Flinx]

Always is a long time and did they ever really?
(Depends on the context I suppose.)

The loving are the daring!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Flinx on 02/09/04 09:00 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[targetdecimated]

Minor nitpick from the artical: "PC" isn't [is not] an architecture. An Apple G5 is just as much a PC as an Athlon box.

Captainnemo, that is a very mean sig. Has coop done something especially mean to you or is it a pleasant joke?

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[eden]

To a certain extent, I do wonder why we cling onto PC to define a non-MAC computer. Personal Computer, PC, is not that "personal" anymore really. I kinda agree we should drop seperating MACS and PCs to define categories. Maybe go along x86 PCs and MAC PCs.

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[redface]

AMD's main competitor is Intel. I don't see any possibility for AMD to kill this competitor. Unless maybe MicroGate is willing to invest many $$ on AMD. But by the look of Windows64, the possibility is close to none.

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[HardWareBoss]

HP released new Itanium servers.

 

[endyen]

Amd is unlikely to even injure Intel, but once Intel comes onboard, A64 will be the death of 32 bit computing.
I think it unlikely that Amd will gain more than a few points of desktop and server marketshare. Just the same, this would be good for us as users. Profit margins would be the big loosers.

 

[jihiggs]

oh it could happen, but intel would have to make some serious mistakes and amd would have to make some very cunning moves.

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[juin]

Sun have severe lose during last year it cost them too much to produce there CPU.There roadmap is totaly unrealistic i be willing to bet my ball that sun wont get even close to there roadmap.They still not want to shift to linux for there slowpoke.I dont see any more new sun customer, most are running away or they are on life support and legacy support.Sun is allready a minor player that dont have any impact.

Just to show dad

 

[P4Man]

You are more than a little exagerrating here. Sun a minor player without any impact ? In 2002, they where the biggest oem in the unix server market, with a 38% (!) market share well in front of HP (30%) and IBM (21%). Sun is a relative minor player in the lintel market, but they are very much alive in the risc/unix market, even if their marketshare is crumbeling and they are bleeding money.

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[HardWareBoss]

They Sun released Ultra Sparc IV.

 

[SoDNighthawk]

Go Spitz!! I only been saying that if your not 64 your no body anything Intel does from now on is totally pointless unless they bring out a 64 the Japanese and Chinese love toys and they will write an OS for the 64's if M$ does not.

Intel is in real trouble and all the modifications they do to any existing CPU hardware is a total waste of time.

A yellow cat is still a yellow cat even if you paint black stripes on it. Intel is running out of water colours and the paint by number trick is wearing thin.

Hey spitz there are more reliable sources then the Enquirer but everyone knows what was posted there is the truth anyways.

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[juin]

There market share is fake

Just to show dad

 

[P4Man]

LOL.. just when you think you hear it all.. sure its fake, juin

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[juin]

There some old US3 that are sold they are consider as a server.

Just to show dad

 

[juin]

http://siliconvalley.internet.com/news/article.php/3114301

In the reality it only 10% in revenue.That just small little low cost box most cannot be call a ""server"".

Just to show dad

 

[juin]

A others

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-985769.html



Just to show dad

 

[P4Man]

You mean like this tiny US3 box they still sell:

<A HREF="http://www.sun.com/servers/midrange/sunfirev1280/images/I1_hw_sunfirev1280_lg.jpg" target="_new">http://www.sun.com/servers/midrange/sunfirev1280/images/I1_hw_sunfirev1280_lg.jpg</A>

Yeah, funny, they call it a server! Wel it is kind of big to call it a PDA really.. and 4-12 cpu's and up to 96 GB or RAM hardly qualify it as a destop either.. what would you call it ?

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[juin]

http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade150/

Just to show dad

 

[juin]

http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/b100s/

Just to show dad

 

[P4Man]

>http://www.sun.com/<b>desktop</b>/workstation/sunblade150/

Who ever said this was a server ?

>http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/b100s/

A blade server; very very much a server. what is wrong with it ? More then 5 cpu's per U. you think this is a portable or what ?

Wether or not these are the latest, greatest fastest systems around is not the issue here. Fact is, Sun is market leader in the Unix server market, period. wether they achieve that by selling 200 MHz obsolete units with 10Mb LAN doesnt matter a damn, as long as it outsells shiny VLIW of Power processor based systems by revenue.

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