Toms sites' obvious Intel bias

So, some self proclaimed expert decides to mouth off about AMD products and berate AMD users. How classless and sorry can supposedly professional people be? I used to think this site provided accurate information about different products. Now I wonder if any review I read here has any accuracy at all. Since this site obviously and viciously supports Intel, how can I expect to read impartial comparisons? The blatantly obvious bias of the so called "journalism" around here makes me wonder if any AMD-Intel or Nvidia-ATI comparisons are rigged to get the results that make the authors "favorite" product look better. If there is any type of editor around here (Tom maybe?), inflamatory articles that have absolutely no reason except to embarrass and berate YOUR OWN readers (Intels 64 bit Doomsday scenario) may have needed to be edited. The way I see it is that this whole site should NOW just be taken as some type of shock jock journalism and if anyone wishes to find out any FACTS about a new product, they need to go to a RESPECTABLE site that can be trusted to provide accurate, true and unbiased testing and opinions. I doubt any of that can be found coming from any of the "professional journalist", "hardware specialist" or "software specialist" hacks on this site.

And don't try to play it off like it was supposed to be some "tongue in cheek" journalism. Everyone is intelligent enough to see the meaning of the article was exactly the way everyone understood it to be.

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Just because someone doesnt point it out or if someone else is doing it, doesnt mean it is ok to do it. i dont care if its amd or intel bias, it has no place in a place that holds itself to a higher standard. there are places for biased comments. i take most reviews or articles with a grain of salt, not just on this site. its rare to find an unbiased site nowadays, some are closer then others. its up the site admins themselves to decide what standard they want to live up to.

No, Zoron, I would be equally as upset. When has this site called Intel and Intel users such names? I use Intel products as often as AMD. There are just as many Intel CPUs in my possession as AMD. Any site that CLAIMS to be a professional site that would produce accurate, unbiased testing of software and hardware (for me to base my purchases on) SHOULD show NO BIAS AT ALL. You ARE a Zoron if you think showing obvious favoritism is anything but detrimental to themselves. How can they be taken seriously when they berate AMD and their consumers in such a manner and then try to get you to believe they are publishing totally unbiased reviews of AMD products? Do you think the viability of Toms may have been damaged? How many people (other than Intel zealots) will really believe what they read on Toms site now?

You wouldn't go to a Chevy lovers site to read a comparison between the Camaro and Mustang, would you? This site isn't called AMD-R-US or IntelRulez, so you would think unbiased reviews would be presented to the public, especially since they used to claim to be impartial. Maybe Tom should rename his site Toms Intelware, now that we know how they really feel.

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I don't see Tom's or Omid's personal preference on hardware effect their knowledge and experience in journalism skills. If Tom's and Omid likes Intel, get over it! Who cares, as long as their reviews are awesome, which IMO , i think they are. I always come to see Tom's reviews. The benchmarks are well categorized and detailed. He gives in-depth reviews unbiased. You guys must me kidding me! Tom's reviews is like 30 pages on average, while everyone elses is only 4-5 pages.

I rate review sites as following;

1.Tomshardware
2.Xbitlabs
3.Anandtech
4.Aces
5.LostCircuits
6.Hexus.net
7.techreport

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how can you make such a blanket statement? You know thats not correct, so why would you say it?

That is false about most AMD buyers.

your taking a very unstable position. if you think that the majority of amd buyers are just fanatics, your very mistaken. its one thing to say that there are amd fantics as much as there are intel fanatics, but trying to alienate amd users.... why do i see a pattern. i mean it would be one thing if you had some sort of proof, but i never base my opinions of a group of ppl based on a certian few you would conisider zealots or 'fanatics'. its true there are 'fanatics' that will be alot louder then others, but that is not the majority. its the same on the intel side, there are 'fanatics' and normal users.

no the same reason linux have start in the 1 place.
Fan boy that looking for a new religion.

I will get flame for that and i wont reply.

Just to show dad

Been building pcs for years personally. I've always built the pc best for my needs and budget. First pc ever was a cel 400 and voodoo 3 because i was on a budget and it did its job. Second was a duron 700 and geforce 3 because again i was on a budget and it more than matched its counter parts and lasted me over a year. Then i had some money to spend and got a 1700xp because @ the time it was the best cpu out for the money.

I then got a barton 2500 because it clocked to over 3200 speeds and only set me back £50 to last me until the prescott or A64 came out.

Well the A64 came out and i was very impressed with the benches etc and i had the money to spend so I now have a 3200 A64 and its running like a dream.

If we amd users seem to be moaning fanboys its because we are fed up of constantly being told amd runs too hot or are not stable or not fast enough when for years this has not been the case (except for the palomino cpu).

My duron ran as fast as 600mhz p3's but ran @ 28c. Its still running fine to this day.

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Wow you guies get riled up. I don't thin that Tom is necessarily a Fanboy of one of the other. I remember back when i built my first comp (800mhz Duron, 256mb DDPC1600, Hercules 3D prophet 4500) he like AMD as the "underdog" that put the almighty Intel to shame. Now you can't call me biased because i have both!!! I have a P4 2.6C @ 3.1(stock cooler) and a Athlon XP1900 system. His statements did sound a bit bieased, but maybe he didn't intend them to come across that way, read the titles, he it says an appologie is needed. Well that's just what i think, nobody probably cares, LOL.

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Here what I do. Watch the Reviews. Go to 15 Websites and Mags and TV. You see Facts. Where most Intel people worship Intel site or any site that make intel the brightest Light. I notice People who like Amd. They do the same thing. Let Look at that Nut who was here claiming Mac crap are faster. Well I read All the reviews. When that Ad on tv claiming Mac where faster. There where other reviews saying they where not. Even PCMag. Claimed Mac was not faster then Amd 64.

What you all need to do is this go in all Reviews. Then go ok which is faster. Not worship One website. And look at programs they use in Each Website. It easy to Make a cpu Look faster. Like use the best for each cpu. Not try to make system the same. Like which Video card run Best on what system. What type of ram seem best for that system.

And I think it funny. Before Presscott was tested Intel people going ya it will beat Amd. Well you all have to look at it this way. It a new Tech Like Amd 64. It will be get better with age. And when Amd had the fx chip out. Intel had to get the p4ee out. And all the Amd Fans are going it going to kill Intel Last system in speed. Well it did for a while untel P4ee was on the Market. Now they both run about the same speed. It pritty much a tie.

For you ThE_ThInG I like both cpus. Each has there Pros and cons. And my Laptop will be Intel 3.2ee L3 with two hard drives. I have not found a dual hard drive with CDRW with amd64. Then I will be getting a Dual 64 bit cpu System. I Might stick with Amd. Or move to Intel. But Not untel I read all the facts.