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1st ever build - credit card at the ready - help!

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February 22, 2004 5:28:27 PM

Having spent the best part of 6 weeks trawling various posts I’ve decided to bite the bullet and go for a self-build. Since there seem to be many and wise likeminded people on this forum I would really appreciate some advice on the following first time virgin build…………….

The PC will be used for web surfing, DV editing and burning to DVD and some gaming (never had a decent PC to do this so would like to get into it).

MOBO
Gigabyte GA-7N400PRO2 nForce 2 8xAGP Ultra400 400 FSB DDR400 IEEE 1394 Retail Box
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
£77.83

CPU
AMD Athlon XP3200 400FSB 512Cache Barton Retail Boxed Inc Heatsink & Fan with 3year Warranty
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
£158.12

CASE & POWER SUPPLY
http://www.savastore.com/products/product.asp?catalog_n...
SX1040B II/MT 400W, 4x5.25", 2x3.5" ATX Case
£81.08

DRIVE
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Maxtor2.html
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 Serial ATA 160GB 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-026-MD)
£80

MEMORY
http://www.dabs.com/uk/productView.htm?quicklinx=2M12
256MB 184DIMM PC3200 DDR RAM Non-Parity CL3
£31.88 inc VAT (£27.14 ex VAT)

x 2 = 512MB = £63

GRAPHICS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/powercolor_ati_g...
PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB - Retail (GX-006-PC)
£178
Although might have to reduce spec to save some cash - any views?


TV TUNER
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
Leadtek Tv2000XP Deluxe TV/ FM Radio/Teletext Optional/remote control And Doubles as a PC Video Recorder
£36.10

DVD
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_RW_Drives.ht...
LiteOn LDW-851S 8x DVD±R/±RW Drive - Retail (CD-021-LO)
£76.73

TFT MONITOR
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
LG Electronics L1710B 17ins TFT DIG TCO99 USB Silver Slim Bezel
£340.74

FLOPPY / MOUSE / KEYBOARD
Using old bits

SPEAKERS
Using old Karman Kardon set

OS
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
Microsoft XP Home With Service Pack 1A OEM
£62.96

TOTAL = about £1116

Thanks in advance everyone.....
February 22, 2004 5:57:42 PM

If its just for "some" gaming, i would get a cheaper videocard really, and would use the price difference to replace the AXP with an Athlon 64 3000+(well, there hardly is a price difference anyway). AXP is dead end, and not as fast as a A64 3000+. 64 bit could also get usefull over time as OS and apps become available (especially for DV editing !).

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
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February 22, 2004 6:09:44 PM

Thanks people......

AMD64 route is interesting - I thought that would be too expensive but you're right - about the same cost.

As for Video card what is the 9600 like? Should I go Pro or SE? I've heard the SE isn't too great.

or should I go for a NVidia 5700?

Cheers
February 22, 2004 6:55:10 PM

Now you have to decide whether you want your games to be “ultra fast” or “playable”. The 9700 Pro and the 9800 Pro and really good cards, almost identical in fact, but they are in the $200-250 range. The 9600 series are a joke, even for their $150-200 price tage. My over clocked 8500 performs better then it does, and its was $50. I personally don’t like NVIDIA cards because they change the way my games look. I had the 5950 Ultra and everything looked poor compared to my 8500. So I took it back and got the 9700 Pro and saved my self $300!

Supporting AMD with your breakable stuff.
February 22, 2004 7:44:43 PM

Well he's talking rubbish about the 9600! Yeah, get a A64 3000, and a Ati 9600xt, bloody brilliant card!

XP2000, 256ddr 2100ram, GF4 MX440, XP Pro
February 22, 2004 7:59:58 PM

Maybe he was talking the non-pro or the SE. The Se performs at about 1/4 of the pro, while the non-pro is between the two. The 9600pro is a very good midrange card, the XT is a bit better. Can you get a 9800np for a reasonable price? That card is in between the 9600XT and the 9800pro, but can be found at better price.
Do not buy SE cards, most of the ones available have a 64 bit interface.
February 22, 2004 8:36:58 PM

So a 9600 Pro or XT is looking good but then I found this post - appears that loads of people are having probs with the ATI cards. Local shop keeper also said to me that NVidia were more stable. Any views.......

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/12263

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Piston on 02/22/04 05:55 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
February 22, 2004 11:24:14 PM

I have the 9600pro. I've had it for about a year now. It is great. No problems. Most problems I've seen with video cards are operator error. No card is proof against that. If a retailer is having problems with Ati cards, it may not be a great place for support.
February 23, 2004 5:21:42 PM

Ok - following more feedback and further research I'm down to the following.......any final comments, recommendations or words of encouragement before I commence my first ever build.

Thanks in advance everyone.

MOBO
K8V Deluxe SKT 754 VIA k8T800 Sound GB LAN Firewire USB 2.0 FSB800 SATA Retail Box
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
£89.70

CPU
AMD64 3000+
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
£149.99

CASE & POWER SUPPLY
http://www.savastore.com/products/product.asp?catalog_n...
SX1040B II/MT 400W, 4x5.25", 2x3.5" ATX Case
£81.08

DRIVE
Seagate ST3120026AS 120gb 7200rpm Barracuda 7200.7 SATA - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
£70.65

MEMORY
512MB 184Pin DIMM PC3200 DDR RAM Non-Parity CL3(CT6464Z40B)
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=C...
£55.21

GRAPHICS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/sapphire_ati_gra...
Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI & Half Life 2 Bundle - Retail (GX-035-SP)
£113.39 with Half Life 2

TV TUNER
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
Leadtek Tv2000XP Deluxe TV/ FM Radio/Teletext Optional/remote control And Doubles as a PC Video Recorder
£36.10

DVD
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_RW_Drives.ht...
LiteOn LDW-851S 8x DVD±R/±RW Drive - Retail (CD-021-LO)
£76.73

TFT MONITOR
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
LG Electronics L1710B 17ins TFT DIG TCO99 USB Silver Slim Bezel
£340.74

FLOPPY / MOUSE / KEYBOARD
Using old bits

SPEAKERS
Using old Karman Kardon set

OS
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?acti...
Microsoft XP Home With Service Pack 1A OEM
£62.96

TOTAL = about £1078 + £5 (ebuyer) + £13 (overclockers) = £1096
February 23, 2004 7:50:20 PM

One little comment: DLing WXP would be a bit, um, cheaper...

A long long time ago, but I can still remember, how that music used to make me smile... <A HREF="http://www.nexus.hu/zonix/DIGGER.MID" target="_new"><b><font color=blue>Digger rulz</font color=blue></b></A>
February 23, 2004 10:13:31 PM

Try to get as many of your parts from one place. I've used Overclocker's before - good service, though delivery was £10 no matter how much I bought whereas ebuyer was £5ish. Given that you've selected parts from both stores (and crucial and savastore...) you'll be paying loads of postage. Try to find the same product at ebuyer - maybe £2 more but saves £10 postage... or try to limit yourself to 2 stores rather than 4. Just a thought!
February 24, 2004 4:07:11 PM

Fair comment PeterF - thanks.

Once I know exactly what parts I need (think I'm almost there) I will try and price all in one store to get the cheapest. I don't think E-buyer is too bad though.
February 24, 2004 6:42:40 PM

oh cmon dont get a r9600 with that system it will hold you back bad. Trash the os get a copied one and get a 9800pro.

FOR GOD SAKE YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT TO ADVICE A 9600 TO A A64 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its like having a Automatic Ferrari .... i mean wtf

Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb pc3200 (3-3-3-2), Asus A7N8X-X
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