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Hate to say is Sparky, but you continue to give reasons to buy
elsewhere.
First and most important, is your attitude.
Not just to your critics but to everyone.
Everyone because this is a public forum and you have shown your true
character.
If you were a real businessperson, you would know better than to act
so childish in a public forum.
Perhaps you may make sales, but I am sure you lose a lot if that is
your general attitude.
It is NEVER a good idea to act that way in public.
No wonder you need to resort to the internet, you would never survive
in a real store.
It is one thing to give facts about your supplier, but if you were a
businessperson with credibility, you would back up the information
with sources.
Instead it simply looks like you are bashing Dell in preparation to
making excuses for failure to deliver on your part.
A business such as yours is the kind I always stay far away from for
those very reasons.
Thank you for warning us so that everyone is now informed on your
business practices.
--
Jupiter Jones
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
"Sparky" <mrlooneybin@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:noyCc.36853$MW4.31751@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> Tax charged only in NYS...99.5 % of my buyers are NOT in NYS.
>
> Dell is "backed up" on shipping these days.
>
> Reasons:
>
> End of Quarter promotions have flooded them with orders
> and also as a result of that, shipping is is backed up as well.
>
> I have orders from 6/10 still "In Production"...they ship 6/29.
> Tag 4 more business days onto that plus July 4 and I won't
> physically see them until July 7 or 8...almost 1 month.
>
> They also have new production lines in their Nashville plant
> that have turned into a disaster...robots dropping systems,
> etc.
>
> Ironically in this economy they are having MAJOR problems
> retaining employees. Why? They pay $10/hr on average and
> work people like dogs. They are so desperate for people
> they are hiring "temps"...takes time to train them, get then up
> to speed and then they bail because they hate the place and the
> pace they are required to work at.
>
> In the end people will base their decisions on their needs and all
> I am doing is getting them their systems 60-75% earlier than if
> they went direct.
>
> Based upon the volume I have pushed out lately and customer
> service I provide, that appears to be working just fine for both
> of us.
>
> BTW, I just checked their site..."ship dates" are 7/6...add 5
> BUSINESS days to that and one may see their system 7/14...
> at least 3 weeks. I knock off 2 weeks. Check my feedback.
> The SINGLE most complimentary remark is consistant:
>
> "Fsst Ship and great servie"...I turn systems out within 24 hours
> of payment. Most days it goes out same day.
>
>
>
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news
mqCc.650$L8.454@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > perhaps you forgot... per your auction listing, you state that you
collect
> > tax too. but of course, with the lower base price at dell it does
mean
> > paying less taxes if one buys from dell. and again you are
exaggerating
> > about the ship date... the quote i posted earlier is estimated to
ship
> > 7/2/04... and that was using the standard web site configuration
tool...
> > every system i have ordered in the last year has shipped well
before their
> > estimate. i do get your point that time is money. but don't miss
my point
> > that wasting money is a waste of time. your customers *may* get a
system
> a
> > few days earlier but give up the 30 day total satisfaction
guarantee, 30
> day
> > price protection, have to trust you that you will transfer
ownership
> (which
> > can only be done if you are or know the current owner), and for
this you
> > charge a 20% markup over their prices. all i am saying is that i
just
> don't
> > see any reason that an educated person would buy from you (and by
posting
> my
> > remarks those that are not aware of these issues will be educated
and can
> > then make intelligent decisions for themselves). good luck.
> >
> > "Sparky" <mrlooneybin@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:dGpCc.1101$A9.463@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > Show him he will put out ALL the money up front, wait 6-8 weeks
for the
> > > rebate and if he buys the system now from Dell he will get a
ship date
> of
> > > 7/14.
> > >
> > > Also you keep forgetting tax. Say @ 6% add on to $758
is..$45.50...thats
> > > $808.
> > >
> > > And you keep missing the point Christopher...TIME IS MONEY!
> > >
> > > Should he win the system, he will have it in less than 5 days.
> > >
> > > Hell I had a guy buy one of these and needed it overnighted to
Wash
> > state...
> > > whole thing ran him almost $1K.
> > >
> > > Why did he do it? He needed it for his BUSINESS. Beside this
stuff is a
> > TAX
> > > WRITEOFF for businesses.
> > >
> > > Here endith yet another lesson.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:0HoCc.36105$MW4.26738@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > > great! your price is now just $130 *more* than dell.
> > > >
> > > > yours is $788 ($699 minimum bid price plus $89 shipping).
> > > > Dell is $658 (detailed below at $758 plus $0 shiiping less
$100 mail
> in
> > > > rebate)....
> > > > even without the mail in rebate the buyer can spend less at
dell than
> > you
> > > > are asking.
> > > >
> > > > perhaps i should send this to 77-cent?
> > > >
> > > > PowerEdge 700
> > > > Date & Time: June 23, 2004 6:41:38 PM
> > > >
> > > > SYSTEM COMPONENTS
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PowerEdge 700 Qty 1
> > > > Intel® Pentium® 4 processor, 2.8GHz, 1MB Cache, 800MHz
FSB, No
> > > > Operating System Unit Price $858.00
> > > >
> > > > Save $100 on PowerEdge 700 through the Small Business
> division.
> > > > Special offer View Details
> > > > -$100.00
> > > >
> > > > Catalog Number: 4
> > > > Sort
> > > > Module Description Product Code Sku Id
> > > > PowerEdge 700 Intel® Pentium® 4 processor, 2.8GHz, 1MB
Cache,
> > 800MHz
> > > > FSB 700281 [221-4108] 1
> > > > Operating System No Operating System NOOSO [420-4190] 11
> > > > Memory 256MB DDR,400MHz, 1x265MB DIMM 256M1D [310-8805]
3
> > > > Keyboard Standard Windows Keyboard,Gray S [320-1862] 4
> > > > Monitors No Monitor Option N [320-2968] 5
> > > > Boot Hard Drives 80GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 80GB
[340-9834] 8
> > > > Floppy Drive Internal 1.44MB 3.5 in Floppy Disk Drive FD
> > [341-0240]
> > > 10
> > > > Mouse Logitec System Mouse,Gray L [320-1861] 12
> > > > Network Card On-board Network Adapter OBNIC [430-0488]
13
> > > > CD-ROM CD-ROM, 650MB,48X, Internal CD [340-9908] 16
> > > > Documentation Electronic Documentation and OpenManage CD
Kit
> EDOCS
> > > > [410-0358][410-0636] 21
> > > > Hard Drive Configuration Onboard SATA, 1 Drive Connected
to
> > Onboard
> > > > SATA Controller MSATA1 [340-9872] 27
> > > > Hardware Support Services 3Yr Parts + Onsite Labor (Next
> Business
> > > Day)
> > > > U3OS [960-1305][902-4370][902-3022] 29
> > > > Installation No Installation NOINSTL [900-9997] 32
> > > > Mail-In Rebate Offer $100 DELL SERVER MAIL-IN REBATE
49306
> MRQ2S01
> > > > [462-9500] 56
> > > > Technical Sales Representative Contact Yes TSRYES
[462-9388] 192
> > > > TOTAL: $758.00
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> > > --
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Total Price
> > > > Sub-total $758.00
> > > >
> > > > Shipping 0.00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sparky" <mrlooneybin@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:BciCc.34976$MW4.28336@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > > > Yo Mr Muto...BYTE THIS!
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5705364072
> > > > >
> > > > > The price must be right!
> > > > >
> > > > > ROFLMAO!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:U5gCc.34837$MW4.14055@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > > > > sparky,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > when someone is just plain wrong they are unable to argue
their
> > > position
> > > > > and
> > > > > > so understandably resort to anger. this seems to be what
has
> > happened
> > > > > here.
> > > > > > given your self appointed reply email address of
'MrLooneyBin' i
> > > suppose
> > > > > > that i should not be surprised at your reply. but i think
that
> any
> > > > > > potential buyers you may have once had a chance of
attracting
> > probably
> > > > are
> > > > > > surprised. if your prices were so great then i don't
think you
> > would
> > > > have
> > > > > > gotten so angry... if you can't handle the free exchange
of ideas
> > then
> > > > > > perhaps you should reconsider publicly posting in the
future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ps. potential buyers, in my not so limited experience with
dell
> > > transfer
> > > > > of
> > > > > > ownership procedures, you can expect at *least* a 30 day
time
> frame
> > > > before
> > > > > > the transfer is complete. this means that dell technical
support
> > will
> > > > not
> > > > > > send you replacement parts if needed or even talk to you
about the
> > > > system
> > > > > > for that matter unless the current owner fully disclose
their
> > details
> > > > > > including name/company name/address/phone number and you
pretend
> to
> > be
> > > > > that
> > > > > > person when talking to dell. since most hardware failures
either
> > > happen
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the first few days of ownership or not at all this is
critical
> point
> > > in
> > > > my
> > > > > > opinion. also, when you buy directly from dell you
receive a 30
> day
> > > > > 'total
> > > > > > satisfaction' money back return policy and 30 day price
protection
> > as
> > > > > > detailed here...
http://tinyurl.com/2yb72
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Sparky" <mrlooneybin@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:e7SBc.23997$MW4.22740@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > > > > > Dear Christopher,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3 Responses....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Warranty is transferred upon payment. Ask/Email ANY
purchaser.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding the TIME...if you order a system today, 6/21,
Dell
> says
> > > > > > > the anticipated delivery date is 7/9....thats 19
days...lets not
> > > > forget
> > > > > > > July 4 is coming...NATIONAL Holiday...you are right I
> > exagerated....
> > > > > > > it will take more than 3 WEEKS to get the box...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding PRICE...95% of people will not want to deal
with a
> > > rebate...
> > > > > > > nor wait the 6-8 weeks Dell says it can take to
process...these
> > are
> > > > > > targeted
> > > > > > > at BUSINESSES not "desktop" users...$100 is NOT a big
> deal....MOST
> > > > > > > important part...I ship with in 24 hours of
payment....you have
> > the
> > > > box
> > > > > > in,
> > > > > > > at most, 5 DAYS....time is money. Oh yeah there's that
3 WEEKS
> > > > > again....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding the OTHER CONFIGS....respectively....Dell
price $2,099
> > vs
> > > > > $1,749
> > > > > > > and $3054 vs $2,299...$300 and $700 in savings....PLUS
you get
> the
> > > > 80GB
> > > > > > > Boot drive which Dell "pulls" from their configs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So..."How 'bout that rebate?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its OK...you can pull your foot out of your mouth....and
when
> your
> > > > moma
> > > > > > > asks why you are crying, tell her it wasn't because you
spilled
> > the
> > > > > > > milk...its
> > > > > > > because you got bitchslapped for having a smartass,
ignorant
> > mouth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here endith the lesson.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cross posted to ALL those same newsgroups to show
everyone what
> a
> > > > > > > complete and utter horses ass you are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With warmest regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sparky
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS...I sold 16 of these Servers in the last 5
weeks...seems I
> must
> > > be
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > something right. So I guess, in the end my point
is..."Muto".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > news:xNPBc.19982$z24.19064@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > > > > > > you are asking a starting bid of $699 plus $89
shipping for
> your
> > > > first
> > > > > > > > item....
> > > > > > > > dell is asking $728 plus $0 shipping and $100 mail in
rebate
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > configuration for a final price of $628.
> > > > > > > > even if you add in sales tax that you may not collect,
buying
> > > direct
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > dell is cheaper... and your suggested wait time to
ship from
> > dell
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > exaggerated. besides, i would rather wait an extra
week and
> > know
> > > > that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > warranty is in my name rather than hope that it will
be
> > > transferred
> > > > by
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > current registered owner. i did not price the other
units you
> > are
> > > > > > selling
> > > > > > > > but highly recommend that interested buyers do so...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cross-posted to all groups per original message.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Sparky" <mrlooneybin@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:0lIBc.13934$U.5603@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > > > > > > > >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5705364072
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