L2 cache is just disable according to toms.So for intel the price of manufacturing is almost the same.The price of celeron show that trend 100 buck less for the celeron compare Pentium M with higher clock and twice the cache.All cut down CPU from intel have the same cache lantency from itanium P4 celeron PM celeron.Just think that intel dont even bother to offer the best cache latency avaible.There politic|economic reason for plain celeron to not offer better cache latency compare to pentium but for a 2000$ US dollar itanium 1.4GHZ i think if i were a customer i will ask for best performance for what i pay.
If the same thing would have been done in the automobile industry that would have make the new.Just think a car that have extra weight just because you dont choice the bigger version.
AMD do the same thing but they dont have the choice intel have it and just dont bothers.They getting lazy.
i need to change useur name.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by juin on 03/09/04 01:42 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
you look like George Bush
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lmao!
The best part is i can barely speak english and i bet juin can speak like 7 different languages.
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45.5k mark? 85 dollars went a long way. So did that extra 15 dollars for cooling my video card.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Johanthegnarler on 03/10/04 00:04 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
They have always done it like that.
Back in the 486 days, the only difference between ad 486SX and 486DX, was that the SX had it's FPU disabled, other than that there where no diffrence.
You could then buy a FPU Co-CPU to the 486SX, wich where nothing more than a condutor, enabling the FPU in the 486SX CPU.
But you still paided for the preformance, not the enabled/disabled features...just like today, where HT is a part of all "Northwood's" but disabled in all the "Northwood A's"...
You could then buy a FPU Co-CPU to the 486SX, wich where nothing more than a condutor, enabling the FPU in the 486SX CPU.
Actually it was even worse than that. The 487 chip was actually a full-fledged 486DX with a bit of additional logic to disable the existing 486SX. So as soon as you plugged in the 487, the original chip would completely deactivate and all processing would take place on the new chip.
Ya know guys he has improved over the years, and it's rather insulting to even consider he might be joking by writing this way since years.
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One thing I noticed from that article (and your automobile analogy is kinda nice btw) and the performance is indeed that for such price, the Celery has some competition to offer (makes you wonder if Dothan will really make THAT much from 2MB of L2), despite its less optimized Speedstep states.
I dunno if 100$ less justifies it over the Pentium M, but performance wise it does show up right. Definitely not the typical Celeron crap. You could say it's a P3 Tualatin 1.3GHZ right now even.
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Aren’t these chips just failed P-M’s that Intel brings back with their post process micro lasers by disabling the part of the chip that fails qualification tests?
Well that's better! Read juin's updated post. It's better than the first one. The conclusion:
<b><font color=red>Intel takes the comercial way.</font color=red></b>
That means they care less about their products then selling them.
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