Does intel is lazy??

[juin]

I just read Pentium M vs celeron M review.

L2 cache is just disable according to toms.So for intel the price of manufacturing is almost the same.The price of celeron show that trend 100 buck less for the celeron compare Pentium M with higher clock and twice the cache.All cut down CPU from intel have the same cache lantency from itanium P4 celeron PM celeron.Just think that intel dont even bother to offer the best cache latency avaible.There politic|economic reason for plain celeron to not offer better cache latency compare to pentium but for a 2000$ US dollar itanium 1.4GHZ i think if i were a customer i will ask for best performance for what i pay.

If the same thing would have been done in the automobile industry that would have make the new.Just think a car that have extra weight just because you dont choice the bigger version.

AMD do the same thing but they dont have the choice intel have it and just dont bothers.They getting lazy.


i need to change useur name.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by juin on 03/09/04 01:42 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[buddry]

Anybody understand any of that?

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[Grub]

Have you been using babelfish again?

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[scamtrOn]

ROFLMAO!!!!


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[Johanthegnarler]

lmao!
The best part is i can barely speak english and i bet juin can speak like 7 different languages.

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45.5k mark? 85 dollars went a long way. So did that extra 15 dollars for cooling my video card.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Johanthegnarler on 03/10/04 00:04 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[oymd]

LOL!!!!!!!!!

and u made it to ANCIENT POSTER with that kind of INTELLECTUAL WELL UNDERSTOOD POSTING...lol....

Howerver, to say the truth, I love reading your posts....

Keep it up!

 

[Mr_Nuke]

If you uswed proper english and scientifical terms, I'm sure we would all get along very well on this forum, don't you think so?

 

[endyen]

Intel sells thier lower binned product by dissabling some parts. It works so why change?

 

[Terracide]

They have always done it like that.
Back in the 486 days, the only difference between ad 486SX and 486DX, was that the SX had it's FPU disabled, other than that there where no diffrence.
You could then buy a FPU Co-CPU to the 486SX, wich where nothing more than a condutor, enabling the FPU in the 486SX CPU.
But you still paided for the preformance, not the enabled/disabled features...just like today, where HT is a part of all "Northwood's" but disabled in all the "Northwood A's"...

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[ritesh_laud]

You could then buy a FPU Co-CPU to the 486SX, wich where nothing more than a condutor, enabling the FPU in the 486SX CPU.

Actually it was even worse than that. The 487 chip was actually a full-fledged 486DX with a bit of additional logic to disable the existing 486SX. So as soon as you plugged in the 487, the original chip would completely deactivate and all processing would take place on the new chip.

 

[eden]

Jeeze everyone is ragging on Juin again.

Ya know guys he has improved over the years, and it's rather insulting to even consider he might be joking by writing this way since years.

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[HardWareBoss]

ROFL Babble on. Boy is Intel lazy. Like a lazy dog.

 

[eden]

One thing I noticed from that article (and your automobile analogy is kinda nice btw) and the performance is indeed that for such price, the Celery has some competition to offer (makes you wonder if Dothan will really make THAT much from 2MB of L2), despite its less optimized Speedstep states.
I dunno if 100$ less justifies it over the Pentium M, but performance wise it does show up right. Definitely not the typical Celeron crap. You could say it's a P3 Tualatin 1.3GHZ right now even.

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[Spitfire_x86]

Intel wants Celeron-M to be inferior. Only disabling 512k L2 cache can't make it much slower, so they kept the clock speed limited to 1.3 GHz.

The price difference between P-M 1.4 GHz and Cel-M 1.3 GHz is $100. THG didn't say how less it costs than P-M 1.3 GHz.

Celeron-M is a very good processor, but it can't justify it's existence with small price difference with Pentium-M and no power saving mode.

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[Schmide]

Aren’t these chips just failed P-M’s that Intel brings back with their post process micro lasers by disabling the part of the chip that fails qualification tests?

Dichromatic for your viewing plesure...

 

[endyen]

Some are and some are chips that just barely passed. All go under the knife the same.

 

[Mr_Nuke]

Well that's better! Read juin's updated post. It's better than the first one. The conclusion:
<b><font color=red>Intel takes the comercial way.</font color=red></b>
That means they care less about their products then selling them.