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Anonymous
September 14, 2005 8:23:02 AM

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I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win xp
professional.
I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a win98
bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk here. But
when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after that, I
see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media type
abort, retry fail?

1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do partition
for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for 120GB?

2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert NTFS
into FAT32?

3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a possiblity of
having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which file
system is suitable and how can I do it?

4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few seconds
going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status bar.


I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most appreciated


Many Thanks Folks

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Anonymous
September 14, 2005 11:06:51 AM

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"Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6310E664-9307-489A-87C8-10CC6CFCCA19@microsoft.com...
>I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win xp
> professional.
> I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
> I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a
> win98
> bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk here.
> But
> when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after
> that, I
> see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
> When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media type
> abort, retry fail?
>
> 1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do partition
> for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for 120GB?

Unless you use a boot manager, you will have to delete your partitions and
start over with partitioning, formatting, and installing Win 98 and XP.
Win 98 will be on C and XP on D. XP will always be on D unless you
reinstall.

From another post:
The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gett...



--

Bruce Chambers


> 2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert
> NTFS
> into FAT32?
>
> 3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a possiblity
> of
> having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which file
> system is suitable and how can I do it?
>

No
> 4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
> install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few seconds
> going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status bar.
>
>

Win 98
--
Ron Sommer

> I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most appreciated
>
>
> Many Thanks Folks
Anonymous
September 14, 2005 11:23:12 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Hello, Stone Cold.
I don't know why you so screw this thread, because it's very easy to
do.
Recently I've installed win98 as second OS whereas I have XP (on single
HDD).
So I just use 'partition expert software'
(http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirec...): shrink
my current partition NTFS> create new FAT32 and install Win98. It was
really fast and foolproof method.
As for you, I think you'd better use Disk Director>create/convert 120Gb
NTFS Primary partition> activate OS selector> install WinMe. Because
FAT32 is an old file system and it has big troubles with large disk.
Install WinMe-because it could be installed on NTFS and a bit better
than Win98.
It will be very easy and reliable, as it was tried by my own
experience.


--
Jucy
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Anonymous
September 14, 2005 11:32:01 AM

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Thanks so much Sommer,

Can you tell me how can I make partitions from fdisk, can you please tell me
in steps just like you did now. Please man I am begging you !!!
Plus I cannot install any partitions program as I have removed windows and
everything, i dont have internet access. I am sending this message from uni
and not allowed to download naything here.

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

>
> "Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6310E664-9307-489A-87C8-10CC6CFCCA19@microsoft.com...
> >I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win xp
> > professional.
> > I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
> > I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a
> > win98
> > bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk here.
> > But
> > when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after
> > that, I
> > see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
> > When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media type
> > abort, retry fail?
> >
> > 1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do partition
> > for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for 120GB?
>
> Unless you use a boot manager, you will have to delete your partitions and
> start over with partitioning, formatting, and installing Win 98 and XP.
> Win 98 will be on C and XP on D. XP will always be on D unless you
> reinstall.
>
> From another post:
> The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
> would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:
>
> C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
> D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps
>
> Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
> size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
> applications.
>
> Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
> disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
> utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)
>
> Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
> D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
> directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
> "D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
> asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
> partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
> Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
> readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
> Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
> FAT32.
>
> This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
> placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
> of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
> second operating system on the second hard drive.
>
> It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
> applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
> formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
> also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
> placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
> program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
> however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
> such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
> uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
> installation data during the first uninstall action.
>
> Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gett...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
>
> > 2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert
> > NTFS
> > into FAT32?
> >
> > 3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a possiblity
> > of
> > having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which file
> > system is suitable and how can I do it?
> >
>
> No
> > 4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
> > install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few seconds
> > going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status bar.
> >
> >
>
> Win 98
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> > I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most appreciated
> >
> >
> > Many Thanks Folks
>
>
>
Anonymous
September 15, 2005 9:14:21 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

See replies injected below each question below---
"Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6310E664-9307-489A-87C8-10CC6CFCCA19@microsoft.com...
> I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win xp
> professional.
> I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
> I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a
win98
> bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk here.
But
> when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after
that, I
> see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
> When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media type
> abort, retry fail?
>
> 1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do partition
> for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for 120GB?
>
The original 98 fdisk cannot partition beyond 64GB. MS has an updated
version at their website. Hard drive manufacturer websites have software
that can do these size partitions and bigger in FAT32. One partition is
inadequate if you're installing XP as well.

> 2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert
NTFS
> into FAT32?
>
Fdisk will see FAT/FAT32. NTFS will be noted an unknown.

> 3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a possiblity
of
> having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which file
> system is suitable and how can I do it?
>
Win98 cannot make use of NTFS. Must be FAT or FAT32 only. XP can use any
form of FAT and its version of NTFS.

> 4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
> install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few seconds
> going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status bar.
>
Like XP, ME is bloated to some extent. But is more convenient OS than 98.
Storage access slowness may be device driver oriented. ActiveX is usually
associated with IE, unless you selected such a desktop presentation at
installation. Then, its a video problem. And probably driver oriented.

Since you mentioned ME, its startup disk should have no problem with
partitioning the 120GB drive either.

I have all 3 of these OSes on one PC. All run fine.

You need a separate partition for XP. So the 120GB has to be divided into 2
or more partitions.

>
> I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most appreciated
>
>
> Many Thanks Folks

Not annoying, quite common. Some should be addressed at the appropriate
newsgroup though, IE - 98.
Anonymous
September 16, 2005 11:17:57 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Bad info, dude. The original fdisk (fdisk.exe) that comes with win98/98se
cannot do anything beyond 64GB. Stick with XP questions.
He will also have to format after fdisk makes those partitions. Format
(format.com).

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
news:eqNLNTSuFHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> "Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6310E664-9307-489A-87C8-10CC6CFCCA19@microsoft.com...
> >I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win
xp
> > professional.
> > I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
> > I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a
> > win98
> > bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk
here.
> > But
> > when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after
> > that, I
> > see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
> > When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media
type
> > abort, retry fail?
> >
> > 1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do
partition
> > for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for 120GB?
>
> Unless you use a boot manager, you will have to delete your partitions and
> start over with partitioning, formatting, and installing Win 98 and XP.
> Win 98 will be on C and XP on D. XP will always be on D unless you
> reinstall.
>
> From another post:
> The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
> would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:
>
> C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
> D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps
>
> Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
> size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
> applications.
>
> Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
> disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
> utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)
>
> Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
> D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
> directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
> "D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
> asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
> partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
> Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
> readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
> Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
> FAT32.
>
> This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
> placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
> of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
> second operating system on the second hard drive.
>
> It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
> applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
> formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
> also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
> placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
> program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
> however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
> such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
> uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
> installation data during the first uninstall action.
>
> Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2...
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gett...
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
>
> > 2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert
> > NTFS
> > into FAT32?
> >
> > 3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a possiblity
> > of
> > having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which file
> > system is suitable and how can I do it?
> >
>
> No
> > 4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
> > install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few
seconds
> > going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status bar.
> >
> >
>
> Win 98
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> > I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most appreciated
> >
> >
> > Many Thanks Folks
>
>
Anonymous
September 16, 2005 1:01:45 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Can you boot to your XP CD?
You cancel the install and partition the drive.
--
Ron Sommer

"Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:298232B5-5BBA-47F8-A643-CC9BCF1EDDA3@microsoft.com...
> Thanks so much Sommer,
>
> Can you tell me how can I make partitions from fdisk, can you please tell
> me
> in steps just like you did now. Please man I am begging you !!!
> Plus I cannot install any partitions program as I have removed windows and
> everything, i dont have internet access. I am sending this message from
> uni
> and not allowed to download naything here.
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Stone Cold" <StoneCold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6310E664-9307-489A-87C8-10CC6CFCCA19@microsoft.com...
>> >I am trying to make my system a dual boot system to run win 98 with win
>> >xp
>> > professional.
>> > I have got 2 hard disks (1 is 120 GB(C:)  and other is 80 GB (D:) )
>> > I have copied all my data on 80 GB as backup and boot my system with a
>> > win98
>> > bootable disk. The Fdisk is not showing the actual size of the disk
>> > here.
>> > But
>> > when I try to create partition and extended & logical partition after
>> > that, I
>> > see the file system unknown instead of FAT32 or NTFS.
>> > When I exit Fdisk and go back to C drive, it says C is invalid media
>> > type
>> > abort, retry fail?
>> >
>> > 1) Now can some one guide me is win98 bootable is suitable to do
>> > partition
>> > for 120 GB HD or not. If not then how shall I make partitions for
>> > 120GB?
>>
>> Unless you use a boot manager, you will have to delete your partitions
>> and
>> start over with partitioning, formatting, and installing Win 98 and XP.
>> Win 98 will be on C and XP on D. XP will always be on D unless you
>> reinstall.
>>
>> From another post:
>> The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
>> would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:
>>
>> C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
>> D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps
>>
>> Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
>> size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
>> applications.
>>
>> Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
>> disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
>> utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)
>>
>> Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
>> D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
>> directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
>> "D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
>> asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
>> partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
>> Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
>> readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
>> Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
>> FAT32.
>>
>> This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
>> placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
>> of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
>> second operating system on the second hard drive.
>>
>> It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
>> applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
>> formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
>> also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
>> placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
>> program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
>> however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
>> such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
>> uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
>> installation data during the first uninstall action.
>>
>> Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2...
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gett...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>>
>> > 2) How do I check If have FAT32 or NTFS file system and How to convert
>> > NTFS
>> > into FAT32?
>> >
>> > 3) Can I install Win 98 on NTFS system or not ? Or is there a
>> > possiblity
>> > of
>> > having both win 98 and XP on same file system and if yes then which
>> > file
>> > system is suitable and how can I do it?
>> >
>>
>> No
>> > 4) Can some one also advice me if win98 is better than winME, as if i
>> > install winME........after some time it becomes slow and takes few
>> > seconds
>> > going into a folder and gives some active X error message on status
>> > bar.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Win 98
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> > I know my questions are very annoying but help would be most
>> > appreciated
>> >
>> >
>> > Many Thanks Folks
>>
>>
>>
!