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Hi!
After long nights full of work on the new design it is now ready for
producing.
PinLED made the final release on that board.
Here are the benefits of the new board:
1.New Digital Section
2.New Driver Section
3.Switch-On-Current-Limiter
4.New Switched 5Volt Power Supply
5.New 12 Volt Digital Power Supply
6.Using of Low impedance capacitors all over the board
7.LEDs and test points are close together to make monitoring much
easier
8.LEDs to monitor the solenoid fuses
9.Layout print with the values of the fuses and names
10.Thicker wiring of the driver section
11.Larger heat sinks for the Gen. Illumination
12.Larger heat sinks for the rectifier and power section

All infos are available on our Homepage: www.pinled.com
On the product side (item number 10033)you can find any information you
want...

Andreas Foerster

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Doesn't look like the average joe will be doing much repair to this board as
it's all surface mount..............

Mike

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runner1717 schrieb:

> Doesn't look like the average joe will be doing much repair to this board as
> it's all surface mount..............
>
> Mike


All parts are strong enough. And they have also a very long
lifetime....
So I thing this board wouldn't break so easy.
Andreas

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Looking forward to the new boards.

Any idea of pricing and availability on the WPC power driver board?

Thanks,
Bob
displayuser wrote:
> runner1717 schrieb:
>
> > Doesn't look like the average joe will be doing much repair to this board as
> > it's all surface mount..............
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> All parts are strong enough. And they have also a very long
> lifetime....
> So I thing this board wouldn't break so easy.
> Andreas

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>From the next week on Madamusement (www.madamusements.com) and Bay Area
Amusements (www.bayareaamusements.com) will have our Dot Matrix Display
Controller Board 10031 and the Fliptronic I+II Board 10032.
The WPC Driver Board will go into production this month. I think it
will available at the end of next month. The pricing will also come
later on because we don't have all the prices for the pats yet.

Andreas

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looking great !

I'm curious: Is there any (c) issues making these boards ? ( re:
ThepinballFactory ) ?

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On Sun, 14 Aug, Mrhide wrote:
> looking great !
>
> I'm curious: Is there any (c) issues making these boards ? ( re:
> ThepinballFactory ) ?

Nope. That kind of thing isn't considered "art". It's just like hard
parts on games that have no art...there's no problem with it.

Same for Jim and his WPC CPU boards. There isn't anything IPB or The
Pinball Factory can do about those (well, since Jim said he isn't shipping
any ROMs, anyway).


--Donnie

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No, I believe they are lifetime warranty!!

:)

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"runner1717" <runner1717@alltel.net> wrote in message news:1df9b$42ffa330$d8aa02d6$14987@ALLTEL.NET...
> Doesn't look like the average joe will be doing much repair to this board as
> it's all surface mount..............
>
> Mike

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I like the switching supply. You'll find that the low voltage bridge
rectifier runs much cooler with one of these ... my Gottlieb System 80's
does. Due to your feature #3 below - I assume you used a switching supply
with 'soft-start' powerup.

But - hey! You stole my idea regarding the CPLD on a daughterboard!!!
(just kidding!!)
I was going to use a very similar unit (with a Xilinx Spartan 3e) to power
my new Gottlieb board. I have a 6502 plus three RIOT's and all decode logic
within one IC. Not sure how you copied it since I never posted a picture
anywhere, though.... Do you have one of them 'brain scanning' thingy's? :)
The one thing I didn't think of was putting the low voltage
regulator -under- the module. Seems like a good place to me...
I have since taken a turn with my design and no longer have a single module
like this - had to make it 'easier to fix'.

Regarding this module -- is this in-circuit programmable by the user? Will
the VHDL or JEDEC files be available to those that buy this board? Not
necessarily to everybody - but just to those that buy one of these boards?

You normally don't need low impedance caps througout the board except near
the switching supply - but this really doesn't matter. I like the idea of
parallel caps. It is much cheaper to fix these in the future if you use
multiple smaller caps mounted in parallel rather than one big cap. Nice to
see this.

The only thing I don't like to see are the surface mount MOSFET's. When
these do go bad -- and they will -- this makes it tough for the common Joe
to fix the board. Especially with the direction new PCB's are going with
the Lead free (RoHS) mandates. This makes the boards harder to work on and
increases the possibility of board damage.

my 2 cents (or is that my 0.016 Euro's?),
-- Ed

"displayuser" <foerster@pinled.de> wrote in message
news:1124044753.344676.31280@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Hi!
> After long nights full of work on the new design it is now ready for
> producing.
> PinLED made the final release on that board.
> Here are the benefits of the new board:
> 1.New Digital Section
> 2.New Driver Section
> 3.Switch-On-Current-Limiter
> 4.New Switched 5Volt Power Supply
> 5.New 12 Volt Digital Power Supply
> 6.Using of Low impedance capacitors all over the board
> 7.LEDs and test points are close together to make monitoring much
> easier
> 8.LEDs to monitor the solenoid fuses
> 9.Layout print with the values of the fuses and names
> 10.Thicker wiring of the driver section
> 11.Larger heat sinks for the Gen. Illumination
> 12.Larger heat sinks for the rectifier and power section
>
> All infos are available on our Homepage: www.pinled.com
> On the product side (item number 10033)you can find any information you
> want...
>
> Andreas Foerster
>

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On Mon, 15 Aug, GPE wrote:
> Actually, there could be a problem only if they directly copied the PC board
> artwork.
> If that were the case, there could be a copyright issue. However, this
> board is obviously not copied with that respect.

Well, yeah, that occurred to me, but since I knew he didn't do that I
didn't mention it.

There would also be a problem if he used any Williams logos or even part
numbers on the board itself, I believe. But again, he didn't do that,
either...


--Donnie

--
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A lot of the failures on power driver boards have nothing to do with
robust or weak design. When something in the machine gets
inadvertantely shorted out, transistors are going to fry. When that
happens - and it will - most people will not be able to perform the
simple task of replacing a blown transistor.

Fortunately all of my power boards are working fine (mainly because
they are very easy to work on). I would much prefere a re-spun board
(identicle to the OEM) to this one if I were going to make the
investment. Wayne claims to be making re-spun boards and there is at
least one other company coming out with them.

For the average user who sends boards out for repair, this PinLED board
would be fine. It will probably be more reliable than a re-spun board
would be. The new 5V power supply is definately nice too. Its just
not for me.

John

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GPE schrieb:


> Regarding this module -- is this in-circuit programmable by the user? Will
> the VHDL or JEDEC files be available to those that buy this board? Not
> necessarily to everybody - but just to those that buy one of these boards?

No, for that reason we will also supply the small Add-On-Board as item
number 10034. Everyone who needs it can order this from us....

> You normally don't need low impedance caps througout the board except near
> the switching supply - but this really doesn't matter. I like the idea of
> parallel caps. It is much cheaper to fix these in the future if you use
> multiple smaller caps mounted in parallel rather than one big cap. Nice to
> see this.
>
> The only thing I don't like to see are the surface mount MOSFET's. When
> these do go bad -- and they will -- this makes it tough for the common Joe
> to fix the board. Especially with the direction new PCB's are going with
> the Lead free (RoHS) mandates. This makes the boards harder to work on and
> increases the possibility of board damage.

>From the next year on all manufacturer of circuit boards must make
their boards "lead free (ROHS)" The manufacturer of parts (resistors,
capacitors, ICs) are going to change their parts too at this moment. If
you try to replace a SMD part you will see that no a hard job.

Andreas

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