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May 3, 2004 5:50:09 PM

64 times I read this forum this month and nver said a thing thats because the only thing that can be said is 64 and that is an awfull short post.

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May 3, 2004 6:18:34 PM

Not true! I say 63.

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May 3, 2004 6:25:46 PM

Where's your 64?

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May 3, 2004 7:39:52 PM

I just built it!! :0 my new game computer but Sad as it sounds yes I am having heat poblems with it.

Going to try a New CPU Cooler this week if it does not settle down some I am going to have to rip this system apart and transfer the water cooling unit over to the 64 but I will have to mill-out a new Cooler block to mate-up with the top of the 64's CPU!!

Pisses me off just a little but no biggy, easy to do.

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May 3, 2004 7:44:22 PM

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Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid 12 Celsius
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Two Maxtor 40Gig 8MB cach 7200rpm
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

Update your signature then! :smile:

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May 3, 2004 8:57:19 PM

Oh the irony.

Someone pissin' and moaning about Intel's heat issues has heat issues with AMD.

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Going to try a New CPU Cooler this week if it does not settle down some I am going to have to rip this system apart and transfer the water cooling unit over to the 64 but I will have to mill-out a new Cooler block to mate-up with the top of the 64's CPU!!


All I can tell you is to hang your head in shame if you can't get your AMD64 running on stock cooling.


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May 3, 2004 9:05:35 PM

Copy paste from any post I ever said a word about Intel heat issues. DORK-Nut!!

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid 12 Celsius
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Two Maxtor 40Gig 8MB cach 7200rpm
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
May 3, 2004 9:11:25 PM

I have them both now and the Wifes 2800+ and now my old 2500+ is going to support a 20 player game server for Day Of Defeat!! I am getting a nice warm 2.2 Ghz off the 2500+ Barton Exactly the same as the 2800+ The 2500+ is an old one I had for a while now and I know from the label it's un-locked and it just cranked up like a new Car.

Swapping cases power supplys etc around as we speak. Well sort of.... I just BBQ'ed burgers and had a couple so now I am in the FAT lay back and type to you guys mode.

I got a message from Tom's about an hour or so ago saying they were updating software the forum has sped right up now even trying to pound around port locks in the fire walls.

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May 3, 2004 9:53:55 PM

Please don't make me search the forums to prove you wrong. You've complained about everything Intel does... heat being just one issue. You may have not said anything specifically about Presscott... but I know for a fact you've called Intel CPUs block heaters on more than one occasion.

As I said, don't make me search. We both know what I'll find.

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May 3, 2004 10:27:11 PM

You holding out for the 6800U to show us the specs? Drop 'em here, I'll be nice about it cause A64s are kickass.

Anyway, it's good to see the A64 selling among enthusiasts (you're only the fifth person at THGC, AFAIK). Though I do have to agree with Zoron that it is weird that you're having heat issues with an A64--you trying to have a silent system or is your room really hot?

Other than the heat issue, how's the system....I'm thinking of building a new gaming system myself (probably not till S939, though) and I'd like input on the A64 if you have any.

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May 4, 2004 3:20:59 AM

I am not trying to run a silent system and the room is not hot. I am seeing numbers as I said already at 55 C and I don't like to have numbers that hot on my game computers.

This current one runs between 12 and 24 C depending on the load and the new 64 is running as reported by both the BIOS and Aida32 as 55 C before game loads!!

I would like to have the system as cool as possible so I am going to take the liquid out of the 3200+ and install it into the new 64 case.

The wife's 2800+ runs at around 55 C with a full Graphics game load and it some times will quit to the desktop but it's quirky and very seldom does it.

All home made game machines are quirky it's just the way the cookie crumbles if you want speed. If you want bullet proof turn the clocks down and paddle along in the mud and get owned by every noob on the net.

The new 64 runs as well as the current 3200+ I cant see any difference in game at all accept that the new comp has a Brand new 5950 and its not overclocked yet but the one in the 3200+ is.

So if you want to compare apples to oranges the 3200+ is slightly overclocked and the installed card is heavily overclocked.
The 64 system has not been touched at all in any aspect of overclocking and it's performing as well or better then the 3200+, so apparently after I take a few weeks to bump it up on the clock numbers I have lots of room to play with yet.

So for a game P.C it apparently is going to kick ass.

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May 4, 2004 3:53:17 AM

Day Of Defeat is not what you would call a stellar graphics intensive program but many in the game servers report FPS at 30 or some times lower. Many of them have ATI cards and the one trick all us Nvidia players have is to turn the Vertical Sync to OFF BY DEFAULT in the OpenGL settings, then set the games config folder from default 75 to 100 FPS.

So I have been playing at 100 fps for the last year in all graphics loads for DoD and the new 64 and 5950 don't show any different then the 3200+ system accept to say that I am proly getting a hundredth of a second faster response time in aiming with the mouse, and tracking German Soldiers on a full out run with the sniper scope up is just awesome. Details are as sharp as they can get but the 3200+ with the 5900 showed the same thing and all my game screen shots are as sharp and crystal clear as diamonds and most of the other guys screen shots show washed out or mucky looking graphics but that could depend on the BMP to JPG or vice versa methods they use to save their game shots.

Half Life 2 might be worthy of some mind blowing graphics I expect to see online in game server combat with greater detail and clarity then any Mad Onion benchmark.

I cross my fingers, as the graphics' and game play of the player model you control in a game are the things that attract players.

Lots said about Medal Of Honor and games like it but the one failing they all have that DoD does not is that you have very poor almost crippled control of your in game player model it's like trying to play with a drunk Para-pelagic the game models simply do not have freedom of movement like in Day Of Defeat or old Half Life.

Nothing against realism but when an advanced computer game starts to subtract speed and performance away from high end game systems then we are in a complete slide away from what programmers struggled to achieve for the last 20 years. Now they make it harder and harder for key binds and mouse movement to flow into the player model you are using.

Quake and DoD and Half Life as well as a few other games run like sports cars with fully effected player models from health damage and jump and fall abilities.

Games like Ghost Recon and Medal of Honour simply suck the life out of a persons reflexes.

If you want to play a game that affords realism and character control in real sudo life environments play splinter cell the full P.C version finish that then play Day Of Defeat or Half life you will be a better player as you understand freedom of player movement however don't expect much from games like Ghost Recon or Black Hawk Down or Medal of Honor you will very quickly notice the programs built all obstacles into the game at the players control level and not in the games ability to learn or be AI this way they make very cheap graphics games and handcuff and leg lock the players model so they stumble around like a wino trying to bust moves that are at best flukes.

By the way I am currently ripping along in Splinter Cell the complete game all over again in the AMD 64 and having a complete blast.

Here is a link to a game pic off my 3200+ system :)  I will post some later from the AMD 64 from the same map location so you can compare not much difference I dont think but you can tell you are moving like a monster in game on the 64 you simply feel the power behind your mouse.


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GeForce FX5900
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SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x
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