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Me and another individual were having a discusssion on the technical terms of a socket 478 motherboard.
I consider the celeron a pentium 4 processor and he does not.
He claims the only pentium 4 is the intel Pentium 4 chip.
I'm don't know how to reply.

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The Celeron is a crippled Pentium 4. You consider the Celeron a Pentium 4 and I consider it a POS! But technically, you are right.

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Reply to Cybercraig
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They are bothe (or can be) socket 478 chips, but a P4 has more cache. Can a P4 have only 128kb of line 2 cache? No!! Therefore a socket 478 celeron is not a P4.

Reply to endyen

The Socket 478 Celeron is not a Pentium 4. It's made with the Pentium 4 core, but it's been handicapped by having cache disabled. And that gives the real P4 around 50% more performance! Really, 50%. As in, a Celeron 2.4 can barely compete with a P4 1.6!

It's actually a little more than 50%, I'm giving you some slack here!

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If you consider CORE, both are based on the same CORE, they share almost everything (except cache size).

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Reply to TheRod

I would call it a P4 Celeron. It's part of the same (quite extended now) P4 'family', and I would always specify the P4 bit so it's not confused with the PIII-based Celerons.

don't forget the Williamette only had 256Kb of L2, but that was still a P4.

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