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May 10, 2004 4:07:11 PM

At the moment I am running a Palomino XP2000+ at 55*C load. I am hoping to upgrade to a Barton XP3200+ and am wondering whether I'm likely to get a significant temp increase. (I am a shuttle user so changing the heatsink/fan isn't an option).

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

B1aze

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May 10, 2004 6:43:18 PM

Hmm.. Not too significant, as the Pally cores are a fair bit hotter than the Barton anyway. I don't have any experience with these SFF boxes, so I don't know what the airflow through the case is like, but I would assume you'll probably even get a decrease in temp.

Why don't you just buy a mobile Barton 2500+, and run it at 3200 speeds? You have a good chance of getting it there on a fairly low voltage, which = less heat. Plus of course it saves money.

Do you have PC3200 RAM though? You'll need it for a 3200+ (or a 2500+ overclocked to 3200+ speeds) Plus of course your motherboard needs to be able to handle the 200Mhz (400DDR) Bus speed too.

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May 11, 2004 9:13:21 AM

Thanks for your replies. Here's my specs:

SN45G - NForce2 Ultra
XP2000+
512MB DDR 266MHz RAM
Radeon 9800pro
Segate 60GB HDD

Yeah I will be buying some PC3200 RAM. I have looked into the XP2500-M overclock but I would rather buy a CPU that I KNOW will reach XP3200+ speeds. Correct me If I'm wrong but I thought not all those chips will get 200FSB.

Thanks,

B1aze
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May 11, 2004 10:24:15 AM

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but I would rather buy a CPU that I KNOW will reach XP3200+ speeds. Correct me If I'm wrong but I thought not all those chips will get 200FSB.

You will surely achieve XP3200+ speed with a mobile Barton, becausethe BEST Barton are labeled Mobile Barton. Barton 3200+ are lower quality Barton. Another advantage of the Mobile Barton is the unlocked multiplier.

So, don't worry, it's 100% sure you can run a Mobile Barton at 2.2GHz.

For the FSB, Mobile Barton are officially sold as 133MHz FSB chip. But Barton core can work at 200MHz ad more FSB. They sold it as 133MHz FSB chip, because laptops are usually running with DDR266 memory, because they consume less power and produce less heat.

If I were you I would get DDR400 or DDR433 RAM + a mobile Barton (2400+, 2500+ or 2600+)

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May 11, 2004 3:53:30 PM

Thanks for all your help guys, seeing as they are the same chip I think I will go for the XP2500-M. Should I run at stock speeds/voltage for a few weeks before overclocking?

Thanks again,

B1aze

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by B1aze on 05/11/04 11:58 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
May 11, 2004 4:14:48 PM

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Should I run at stock speeds/voltage for a few weeks before overclocking?

No, you can overclock as soon as you have it. You will probably get too 2.2GHz easily at stock Voltage. Because Mobile Barton are officially meant to run at 1.45 Volts and most MB minimum voltage is 1.6 Volts. So you will already have a Voltage boost.

As usual, go step by stap and make sure your system is stable with every speed boost, don't overclock too much at a time.

Start with 200x9, then 200x10, then x11, then x11.5, x12, x12.5... I think most Mobile Barton will run at 2.4GHz (200x12) without problem. If you are lucky, you will reach 2.6GHz with good airflow and 1.7 to 1.8 Volts

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May 11, 2004 7:10:33 PM

What really helps is the jump to FSB400, either by overclocking a Mobile XP2500+ Barton or using a regular XP3200+ Barton. As I'm not too fond of overclocking, I use an XP3200+ on nForce 2 Ultra 400 platform at FSB400. I previously used an XP2100+ and XP2800+ on FSB266 and FSB333 respectively and I noticed the jump to higher FSB each time. The increase in processing power could not have explained alone the general performance increase I noticed. However you do it (overclocking or not), go with FSB400 for noticeable performance increase.
If you overclock, make sure you have a proper cooling solution. If you don't, the stock HSF will do the trick as my XP3200+ tops around 52C under load.
Good luck!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Oracle on 05/11/04 03:13 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
May 11, 2004 8:04:47 PM

Thanks again everyone. All I need to do now is buy the chip!

Thanks,

B1aze
May 12, 2004 8:44:59 AM

Side note: If you plan to only overclock to 3200+ speed, mobile 2400+ is enough and you will save some money (2400+ are about 20%-25% cheaper than 2500+).

If you want to reach the maximum overclock posible, get the highest mobile you found at 1.45v. (usually 2600+)


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May 12, 2004 2:39:52 PM

Thanks baldurga, I'll keep that in mind.

B1aze
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