A64 3800+ review

[leonov]

Even earlier than Tom's

http://www.x86-secret.com/popups/articleswindow.php?id=105

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[scottchen]

what language is that?

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[juin]

It clearly change nothing there minor gain.A64 win games P4 won the rest like any benchmark.Personnaly i think P4 is a faster chip.A cpu will never increase your gaming performance around 4X FSAA and 8X ansi cpu power become useless.

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[scottchen]

Compare the X800 review from xbit with the one from tomshardware, xbit uses 3400+, toms used 3.2ghz Intel. You'll see that even with the eye-candy graphics, the CPU still matter!!

Besides WinXP 64's coming out in about 3 months or so.

D@mn you Intel fanboy :tongue:

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[juin]

i dont need benchmark to know that just benchmark youself with you own comp.

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[leonov]

It's in French. It's pretty obvious what's happening most of the time.

3500+ is basically almost on par with 3400+ and the P4 seems to still win at those benchmarks it always has.

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[scottchen]

so... you have a P4 system and an Athlon64 system, and x800pro??!!

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[P4Man]

Agreed. Nothing shocking in there, the only real "news" is that indeed dual channel makes up for the loss of half the cache, which was pretty much a given (at least its what I predicted )

Questions that remain is how the FX will perform on s939 (not holding my breath here, I'm not expecting more than a few unnoticeable percent) and how those chips will compare to 3.6 GHz prescott based P4's on 915 and DDR2. That might be more interesting to watch, and here I put my money on the A64 chips (of course, keeping in mind the traditional strenghts and weakness of the P4).

Then the next big thing will be 64 bit benchmarks...

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[trooper11]

really there werent that many benches to go by to make any conculsion, only assumptions. and there were a couple areas i found interesting. i think the 3500+ is dissappointing if the scores hold true on other sites, since it is on par or worse then the 3400+ specifically in gaming. but i saw one good thing, that was the 3800+ taking the lead in divx encoding, not something you see often.

 

[juin]

Have you ever benchmark a games like Quake 3 or 3Dmark anything enable high quality and FSAA and you wont see much difference between a AXP 2500+ and a A64 at 1000 THZ

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[juin]

P4 will win SEE SSE2 benchmark athlon will have the rest.In any case they are in the 10% margin of each others.

There nothing big in hardware coming soon.

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[trooper11]

yeah id say we are only on the edge of the next advancement, which seems to be the race to dual core.

 

[coylter]

Its french.....and i speak french i can read it
Btw they say that the 3800 kick the p4 ass.

Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/360) , 512mb pc3200 (5-3-3-2), Asus A7N8X-X<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by coylter on 05/24/04 05:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[P4Man]

Just curious, when was the last one ? I must have missed it, I've only seen a steady increase in performance and features, not a revolution.

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[juin]

Hyper treading.

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[P4Man]

LOL.. you have to be kidding me. What a giant leap that was. By comparison the first protected mode cpu (386) superscalar design (P5), or integrated FPU (486) where quantum leaps.

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[juin]

So does SMT

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[trooper11]

well this is contriversial but id say amd's move to integrated memory controller, hypertransport, and 64bit were a big step, more then just an evolution

 

[juin]

Intergrade memory controleur hyper transport that have nothing to do with the arch of the CPU itself.64 bit GPR that just slapping more transistor more interconnecteur rework a bit the pipeligne and there you go.Intel presscott prove that this can be done with minimal resource and short time.

i need to change useur name.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by juin on 05/24/04 10:09 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[trooper11]

what are you talking about with the prescott? you mean the 64bit? where is it? if you mean the additional functions already in it, those will never be used anyway, intel itself said so.

anyway, i have to say your stretching here. i agree the memory controller is not part of the core itself, but it is part of an all in one chip that intel doesnt have. it basically removes the need for the northbridge, id call this a revolution more then an evolution, since it changes the way motherbaords need ot be designed and it is a perforamnce boost. i dont know why you want to fight over whethere those things were big or not. its still the most recent largest revision to a cpu , wether it effects the very core or not, its all in one package.

next will be dual core, even that wont affect the core inside, well it could but it doesnt have to. i guess we were talking about two differnt things then.

 

[scottchen]

Go trooper! Fight with the intel fanboy.

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[trooper11]

uh oh what have i done!!!! lol

 

[scottchen]

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