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May 31, 2004 4:59:25 AM

I read reports where they say that AMD's design is better for gaming than P4's, where's P4's are better for office work.

Is this generaly true?

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May 31, 2004 5:13:08 AM

yes its true
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May 31, 2004 6:01:45 AM

Even toms confirmed this some might say these benchmarks are intel bias they still do show to 64 running games better and the p4's
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June 2, 2004 1:39:08 AM

A bunch of lemmings.

Intel or AMD are both great for gaming, one is no better than the other unless you are considering FX or EE processors. You should be considering high end video card, lots of memory and possibly raid SATA drives.

An A64 will not get you higher scores or accurate shooting, nor will it improve your 56k modem.

You could be very happy on a 2.8e with 865 chipset and a single IDE hard drive as long as you have a good DX9 video card.

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June 2, 2004 1:52:12 AM

And if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
June 2, 2004 2:00:28 AM

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And if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Kitchen? Never mind the kitchen, stay away from the Prescott box! :wink:

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June 2, 2004 2:23:51 AM

I guess you missed the point. You put a 400 cfm hoodfan in the kitchen, to keep the scootie cool.
June 2, 2004 2:25:38 AM

From what I have seen that probably about sums it up. Your presentation is a bit caustic though, he he.:p  Not sure I agree about the ee and fx 51 statement, though. They don't look all *that* much better on the benchmarks from what I have seen. The difference in performance appears to me to be almost negligible in most cases compared to the difference in price. So it is, as I see it at least, back to the hype you are denouncing in your post with those ultra high priced chips. :p 
p.s. not flaming, more or less just ammusing myself.

Tom's benchmarks *do* look to me to be a bit weighted to intel lately, some of the other sites show the athlon 64 as better. I was leaning strongly towards p4 mostly based on "Tom's end of the year round up" even though I have gone amd on my two previous builds. I am starting to see the argument for athlon 64 now though especially for gamming. I think if that new msi k8n neo platinum board with the nforce 3 250 chipset that I keep reading about was out I might switch gears and go athlon 64 instead of p4. As it is I am wondering if it is worth the wait or what.
Anyway, I am no means an expert. Looking for advice myself. Just calling em as I see em.
I would have to say it must be just about impossible to compare the chips one for one as the chipsets/mobos and in some cases the memory are different between the different makes and models of cpus tested. Further complicating the matter is the fact that there is no universal standard test set up even for the things that could be used in common like video cards, hard drives and so forth. So from site to site and even sometimes from article to article in a site the benchmarks can be confussing (at least to me, he he)
I guess I am leaning towards the p4 2.8 northwood chip or else wait for that new mobo and go athlon 64 3000 or 3200. Better yet I should just forget about all this nonsense and keep my cash. :p 
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June 2, 2004 2:30:13 AM

Seeing as your old rig is 3+ years old, a switch to 64bit should be in your thoughts.
June 2, 2004 2:42:27 PM

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I guess you missed the point. You put a 400 cfm hoodfan in the kitchen, to keep the scootie cool.

I guess I did miss it then. Where would you find a BTX-form-factor vent hood though?

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June 3, 2004 2:23:28 AM

The hoodfan is for atx (some custom sheetmetal work required) For BTX, you just hook up to a high powered vacuum system.
June 3, 2004 6:48:20 AM

In that case you could be just as happy with an overclocked 2.4 or 2500+, what's your point?

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June 3, 2004 7:15:01 AM

Obviously.



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June 3, 2004 5:46:52 PM

That was the point.

It's stupid that a statement like 'a person could be happy with a vastly inferior CPU' came from fugger.

I mean, I can say that because I've never bought the 'latest and greatest' and don't think I ever will, but fugger?

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June 15, 2004 3:42:13 AM

My point was the video card will have more impact than the CPU speed in gaming above 2.4Ghz/2400+

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