Cactus Canyon. Good or bad? Will Wayne upgrade the software?

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Discussed here recently and also on the pinball.com forum. Short
answer: probably not.

And yes I also find it the best looking WPC game ever made :-)

Aeneas.
--http://www.flippers.be

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CC is a really cool game. I played one for the first time at
California Extreme recently. It may be a little easy - I had a mega
game the first time I played it. There are plenty of toys, great sound
and humor in the software. Too bad there weren't more produced. Its a
great game, but not worth the premium collector's price that it
commands. I'd buy one if it was in the same price range as a T*OTAN or
A*FM.

Don't expect any software updates. There is no money in it. The code
will be copied and handed out for free within days. The best you can
hope for is a re-release of the game by Wayne, in which case it would
make sense to update the software. Don't hold your breath though!

John

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I played one at the Akron, Ohio Pinball show. It was a little easy but
I really enjoyed playing it.

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One thing you have to remember with CC is that they barely did any
testing or tweaking with the software, so as a result, in factory
settings it is relatively easy to reach some of the goals and thus get
to High Noon. With a little adjustment, you can make the game much
more challenging, which I'm sure is what would have happened had WMS
not rushed it out the door. Example: Set the combos on the hardest
setting, suddenly it's not so automatic that you will get that point on
the star. In factory setting, any decent length of game and you will
achieve it without even trying. Another example is the Bart Bros, have
them set to take the same # of shots to complete as it does to finish.
say, the King of Payne on MM, and suddenly HN becomes very difficult
indeed!. And as far as HN goes, it obviously wasn't finished, I'm
sure it could be made much more satisfying with a little code work.

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On Fri, 19 Aug, Robert Winter wrote:
> PT wrote:
>> Don't expect any software updates. There is no money in it. The code
>> will be copied and handed out for free within days. The best you can
>> hope for is a re-release of the game by Wayne, in which case it would
>> make sense to update the software. Don't hold your breath though!
>
> This is why I think Wayne should sell/license the source code and
> development tools for specific games to third parties. Those third
> parties could then either update it as a labor of love or pre-sell copies.
>
> I for one would love to work on the source code for CC and/or SS.

I hate the thought of signing NDAs on code *ever*, but for that I'd sign
one. For sure.


--Donnie

--
Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.

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I'll risk blasphemy and say the following: What about adding to TZ's
code to make it even deeper--like LoTR deep? Get all the camera awards
and get the Super Camera mini-wizard mode. Everytime you defeat the
Power, get something like an Elf Gift--then once you complete the door
panels, get LITZ. Get all 3 and have a deeper wizard mode with actual
objectives and rewards, Flame suit on.

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It took Ted Estes 16 months to do TZ 9.4 ROM. And those changes were not
nearly as complicated as what you're proposing. And that's the guy who wrote
the damn thing in the first place. Although very enthusiastic and neat idea,
I doubt very much it will happen, but then again what do I know, I'm a
clueless dumbass anyway.

Adi
www.txpinball.com

"gooniegoogoo" <gregdavis@mail2lawyer.com> wrote in message
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> I'll risk blasphemy and say the following: What about adding to TZ's
> code to make it even deeper--like LoTR deep? Get all the camera awards
> and get the Super Camera mini-wizard mode. Everytime you defeat the
> Power, get something like an Elf Gift--then once you complete the door
> panels, get LITZ. Get all 3 and have a deeper wizard mode with actual
> objectives and rewards, Flame suit on. Oh--not enough inserts to do
> the trick, you say? Have a new backboard made to plug in with all the
> indicator lights you'd need.
>

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I am a computer programmer ( bet the farm on the Java™ platform with
dubious success so far), and assembly code programming is a biatch for me,
so yes it's not easy to do.

You can read some more about it from the guy who programmed your favorite
machine by clicking right here:
http://www.gameroommagazine.com/twilightzone1.htm

Adi
www.txpinball.com


"gooniegoogoo" <gregdavis@mail2lawyer.com> wrote in message
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> Wow! That long just for the 9.4 revision? Wouldn't this suggest the
> need for a more efficient way to program these things? Can't someone
> create "building blocks" of sorts?
>

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C'mon guys, this is beyond out of hand. Manic, Adi is one of the good
guys, really. Just trust me. Adi, same goes about Manic. Let's call this
pissing match a draw. Ineed, you can both piss. Ok? Good You're both
friends of mine and I hate to see friends carry a disagreement into an
all out war.

adi@txpinball.com wrote:
> Liar, liar, loser on fire... LOL. I sure wish I have kept those emails, we
> exchanged 3 or 4 in a matter of hours.
>

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com

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Fine. I retreat.

Adi
www.txpinball.com

"Cliffy" <crinear@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> C'mon guys, this is beyond out of hand. Manic, Adi is one of the good
> guys, really. Just trust me. Adi, same goes about Manic. Let's call this
> pissing match a draw. Ineed, you can both piss. Ok? Good You're both
> friends of mine and I hate to see friends carry a disagreement into an
> all out war.
>
> adi@txpinball.com wrote:
> > Liar, liar, loser on fire... LOL. I sure wish I have kept those emails,
we
> > exchanged 3 or 4 in a matter of hours.
> >
>
> --
> Cliffy - CARGPB2
> A passion for pinball!
> http://www.passionforpinball.com
>

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I asked nicely and now, enough. that was the longest retreat in history
Now, put it to bed. I'm hoping Manic will be big enough to let you
have the last word... I hope. Back to pinball, ok guys?

adi@txpinball.com wrote:
> Well, good that you don't hate me, I don't hate you either...

--
Cliffy - CARGPB2
A passion for pinball!
http://www.passionforpinball.com

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Of course, dude... He's stewing, steaming and boiling, he's "the last word
is mine, damn the rest" type...
You are, (of course, is there any other way to describe you) a nice, kind,
noble, gentle, peace brothers, let's talk pinball, guys), diplomatic
mediator. Guess everybody is in their element.

Adi
www.txpinball.com



"Cliffy" <crinear@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I know you're chomping at the bit, Manic, but thanks and please, let 'er
> die
>
> Manic wrote:
> > I don't "hate" you - but I don't appreciate people that
> > almost immediately indulge in foulmouthed name-calling
> > and "f**k **f" types of replies. I'm not the type to usually
> > walk away from that kind of attitude but in deference to
> > the people I've known and respect here for almost a decade
> > I'll be glad to move on.
> >
>
> --
> Cliffy - CARGPB2
> A passion for pinball!
> http://www.passionforpinball.com

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Sharing space with Shields & Fields....

(I do apologize for Texas.)


Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
=====================
Cliffy wrote:
> I asked nicely and now, enough. that was the longest retreat in history
> Now, put it to bed. I'm hoping Manic will be big enough to let you
> have the last word... I hope. Back to pinball, ok guys?
>
> adi@txpinball.com wrote:
> > Well, good that you don't hate me, I don't hate you either...
>
> --
> Cliffy - CARGPB2
> A passion for pinball!
> http://www.passionforpinball.com