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miwojo11   06-29-2004 at 02:20:26 AM

Im thinking of getting this comp as a replacement for my current one. Its $549. Of course I will of course be using it for gaming. I play alot of high preformance required games.

MOBO: Asus K8VSE Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+
MEMORY: PMI PC3200 1GB

All thoughts appreciated..

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scottchen   06-29-2004 at 02:30:23 AM
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Get the MSI K8N FISR, it's the cut down version of K8N Neo Platinum, all it's lacking is the onboard firewire, and it offers only native SATA controller from the Nvidia MCP, no extra SI controller.

The CPU's a decent choice, even though i myself would go for a 3200+ clawhammer.

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miwojo11   06-29-2004 at 02:33:52 AM
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Is my 3000+ a clawhammer? and is there a difference in the two mobo's speed wise?

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scottchen   06-29-2004 at 02:40:43 AM
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Well in theory yes, the single chip solution by Nvidia should have less delay than the VIA's chip, and it supports 1000HT. Let's just leave it as Nvidia's better than Nvidia how's that? the MSI K8N is a superior board than the Asus K8V.

The 3000+ is newcastle, i like the 3200+ clawhammer is because it has 1mb L2 cache, and the reason for that is because... nm just buy the clawhammer if you can still find one.

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miwojo11   06-29-2004 at 02:47:03 AM
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Sorry if im annoying but I want to be sure. These are your picks?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 413&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 457&depa=1

Also what kind of memory do you prefer for good speed?

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by miwojo11 on 06/28/04 08:48 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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scottchen   06-29-2004 at 03:30:42 AM
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Yup those will be EXCELLENT, but the CPU's oem, therefore no heatsink/fan.

I'm just using generic samsung ram, since i was broke after buying my A64 system. generic samsung overclocks GREAT, most company just slap on some heatspreader and rate them at higher speed.

Grab some OCZ 3200EB ram if you have cash, if you don't just go for generic samsung.

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HardWareBoss   06-29-2004 at 04:17:24 AM
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What are you using for vid card?

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miwojo11   06-29-2004 at 05:44:58 AM
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I want to buy the X800 XT, but we'll se how money comes along. :)

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Zeekfu   06-29-2004 at 06:11:34 AM
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New egg has it posted they are getting more clawhammer desktops today?:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 416&depa=1

I got one last week. It was the newer cg stepping:

http://www.amdboard.com/amd64_opn.html

Scott is the a64 man-he'll steer ya right. He is also an overclocking nut. :smile: So if you don't plan to overclock newcastle is actually a bit faster I think??? If you plan to overclock a bit he says go for the clawhammer like I did.

(If you overclock you can raise the speed....but not the cache:> )

currently available athlon 64 3200+ cores:
newcastle=2200 fsb 512 l2 cache
clawhammer=2000fsb 1mb l2 cache


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miwojo11   06-29-2004 at 06:23:56 AM
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Well I dont know how to overclock or even want to cause it sounds complicated. I checked out the ram, pick out which one ill need.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] value=4163, 6163, 3953, 0&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=1550&DEPA=1&InnerCata=147

Im guessing i dont need the upgrade memory or the 64X72Bit for the FX. The only difference i found was the latency, which i have no idea what it does...

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by miwojo11 on 06/29/04 00:26 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Zeekfu   06-29-2004 at 06:34:49 AM
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Well I dont know how to overclock or even want to cause it sounds complicated. I checked out the ram, pick out which one ill need.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] value=4163, 6163, 3953, 0&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=1550&DEPA=1&InnerCata=147

Im guessing i dont need the upgrade memory or the 64X72Bit for the FX.

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you don't want ecc memory unless you are using a cpu that requires it like the fx--...It is more expensive and won't work with most of the a64 platforms.

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Zeekfu   06-29-2004 at 06:44:40 AM
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here was my first introduction to what those numbers mean:
<A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040119/index.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040119/index.html</A>

also the corsair website has an excellent presentation complete with a sweet voiced female narrator:
<A HREF="http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/tech/memory_basics/153707/index.html" target="_new">http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/tech/memory_basics/153707/index.html</A>

also zipzoomfly has a kingston guide:

<A HREF="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Buyers_Guide/Memory_kingston.jsp" target="_new">http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Buyers_Guide/Memory_kingston.jsp</A>

and here is your a 64 3000+ deal:
<A HREF="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/showcase/AMD_showcase.jsp" target="_new">http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/showcase/AMD_showcase.jsp</A> mwave, monarch, new egg and others have simular deals if you want the free far cry game.

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HardWareBoss   06-29-2004 at 06:54:27 PM
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Very nice vid card. You can OC X800Pro to XT speed.

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Ned_Flanders   06-29-2004 at 07:24:26 PM
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"generic samsung overclocks GREAT" (Scottchen)

It sure does, my DDR333 o/c past DDR400 all the way to 210Mhz(DDR420)

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Anonymous   06-29-2004 at 07:27:14 PM
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Wow zeek your becomin an expert =Þ

Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-3-3-8, Leadtek FX5900 w/ FX5950U bios@500/1000, 2X30gig Raid0

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