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July 7, 2004 4:14:24 PM

anyone know how i can find out the maximum safe temperature my P4 3.2Ghz HT (non-Extreme Edition) should run at (idle and on high load)?

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July 7, 2004 5:20:11 PM

at the moment im getting
a case temp of 30 MAXLOAD (cel) - which i think is lowish
a cpu temp of 67 MAXLOAD - which i think is a bit too high

at the mo im using stock cooling any thoughts on wether or not i should replace the fan+heatsink if so to which?

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
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July 7, 2004 5:37:12 PM

could go with the xp-120 from thermalright. Should fix that cpu heat problem
July 7, 2004 5:57:52 PM

do you guys think both temps (case and CPU) are high or just the CPU?

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 7, 2004 8:10:32 PM

also what do you think my cpu temp would be if i got a new heatsink + fan?

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
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July 7, 2004 10:07:07 PM

My Oced 2.6 at 3.25 is running at 33c idle and 47-50 full load. With stock fan...

Thats seams high. Getting a better fan would help but you should find out whats wrong like that they could be evn lower...

Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-3-3-8, Leadtek FX5900 w/ FX5950U bios@500/1000, 2X30gig Raid0
July 8, 2004 6:07:38 AM

ok, i checked that the heatsink was making a good contact and it appears that it was (the cpu had made a perfect little imprint on the thermal compound that intel put on the bottom of the heatsink). any other things i can try to find out the source of this heat??? also is the case temp too high (load 30 idle 24ish)?

i noticed that the zalman heatsink mentioned earlier look rather large (from the pics on the site). i dont think it would fit on the board properly as there are several other heatsinks around the CPU which are nearly touching the current Stock cpu heatsink. any thoughts on this?

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 8, 2004 6:37:56 AM

alot of those heatsinks are heavy as crap. That hyper 6 or whatever is a monster. I wouldn't want to put something that heavy on a motherboard unless I never planned to move the case. Even then it looks sketchy. Although it certainly does offer great cooling if it works with your mobo.

I believe artic silver 5 should help you a few degrees beyond that stock thermal pad. Other than that I am curious why the cpu would be hot. That seems a bit high to me as well. I would think you would want cpu temp to be in the 40's 50ish max???? Some of these other guys will give you a better idea I am sure. Could the reading be incorrect? Are you getting any errors? Are you overclocking?? If you aren't overclocking that seems quite high indeed. You sure you got the northwood core and not the prescott?
is your fan spinning properly? It sounds like something isn't adding up if your case/ambient is low and cpu is that high.

<font color=black>yippie ki ya, m..........<font color=black><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by zeekfu on 07/08/04 02:41 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
July 8, 2004 7:38:04 AM

im not overclocking, and its definately the northwood.

at the moment (just surfing the net) my cpu is 39-40 and case is 26.

i think the case temp is ok (anyone else agree?).

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 8, 2004 7:43:59 AM

i just confimed what motherboard monitor was telling me (by checking the bios) and the cpu temp is about 40 - 45 idle. the cpu fan is spining at around 2700rpm (that about right?)
the heat sink is firmly on the cpu so i cant see why its so hot. any ideas on how to find where all this heat is comming from.

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Pentium 4 3.2Ghz 800FSB (Northwood)
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
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July 8, 2004 3:05:18 PM

MB sensor are not accurate at all...
30c for the case doesnt seams so high, I dotn know what my case temp are tough...Room is at 20-24 so my case should be at 25-30 I assume...
Maybe like zeekfu said puting some AS might help but im still wondering why you get high temps.
Make sure the heatsink is clean no dust or whatever between the fins. If you can, you can also try to put the HeatSink the other(rotate it 180) see if it make better contact.
I dont know just shooting some ideas.

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July 8, 2004 4:25:36 PM

im not sure it is all that high, i've been looking on the net and several ppl have said in other forums that their p4 3.2 gets above 60.

ive got a bit of dough at the moment (student loan) might get a zalman heatsink. i would still like to know why its hot though. the 3.2 is at the top end of the northwood's spectrum, so would that make a difference?

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Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
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July 8, 2004 6:32:16 PM

i would say yes but what puzzle me is that my CPU is running a good 20c lower than yours and is running at 50mhz more...Also its probly under more stress because of the 250mhz FSB and juste because its OCed...

60c aint alarming I just think it should be lower...

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July 8, 2004 8:21:42 PM

any ideas on what i can do about it then?

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HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 9, 2004 8:32:30 AM

if i contacted intel would they be able to help at all?

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HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
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MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 9, 2004 12:26:05 PM

That would be a serious waste of money.
Your processor will clock throttle from overheating if the core temperature reaches 70C.
Thus a temperature below 70C is concidered normal operating temperature by Intel.
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Does your system case have an intake and exhaust fans that are 80mm or larger?
If it does is air flow obstructed?
Have you considered using a larger case for your computer?
Does the room ambient temperature fluctuate? Is the room temperature above 25C most of the time?
My personal opinion...I think you are worrying too much about your cpu temperature.

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July 9, 2004 12:49:39 PM

i hope im worring too much!
my case temp is fine stays below 31c all the time.


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HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
July 9, 2004 1:03:58 PM

Install an intake fan bellow the HDD and an exhaust fan bellow the PSU. And don't let any IDE cables get in the way(hide them between the CD-ROM and the HDD and bend them in 90 deg. angle so that they stay close to the mobo, case wall and drives)
July 9, 2004 1:06:26 PM

lol - thats pretty much my exact setup at the moment.

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HIS Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb AGPx8
Corsair 1Gb DDR400 (2-3-2-6)
Creative Audigy 2ZS
MSI 865PE Neo series Motherboard
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July 9, 2004 1:23:51 PM

Dont worry, you can try to figure out why the temps are a bit high but there aint nothing alarming by those temps.

Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-3-3-8, Leadtek FX5900 w/ FX5950U bios@500/1000, 2X30gig Raid0
July 10, 2004 2:10:32 AM

You have 2 problems, and they are bothe MSI.
First off, msi boards tend to report temps higher than they are.
The vregs on your board also run a bit hot. If you attach a temp probe to one of them, you will probably find they are at about 60c. They transfer a lot of heat to the cpu.
It doesn't help that msi overvolts the chip as well, for stability.
The main thing is that your mobo is reporting a higher temp than is there.
July 10, 2004 3:07:10 AM

Ok what he said sounds reasonable. I am just a smart ass newbie punk when it comes to computers but I read something the other day that said for overclocking anything above mid 40s might cause stability issues. But if you aren't having issues maybe the readings are just snaffued. I just hated for you to go out and have to spend money on more expensive cooling when stock should be doing the job nicely from what I read. Judging from your case temp you should be aok. Maybe case is low and cpu is high? What is ambient?

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July 10, 2004 7:23:48 PM

If you've just put it together give it some time. Temps will get lower as H/S, thermal compound, and CPU get acclimated.

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