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July 10, 2004 7:11:48 PM

<A HREF="http://www.xtremesystems.org/modules.php?op=modload&nam..." target="_new">Info</A>

There's a link to the benchmarks...but for the lazy asses, <A HREF="http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&t..." target="_new">here.</A>

Turns out it's not just a die shrink! Oh yeah, these are only Winchester, no San Diego or Troy yet.

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July 10, 2004 7:20:42 PM

Dude it's some dude that looks like he punk'd you.

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July 10, 2004 7:22:22 PM

Huh?

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July 10, 2004 7:25:45 PM

MTV... it's been raining lots where I live so I have had lots of time to watch the "TV".

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July 10, 2004 7:34:57 PM

Oh my CPU Mark 99 from ZD, I thought that was obsolete back with 1GHz systems. I haven't used that since overclocking Celeron 300a's on 440BX boards.


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July 10, 2004 10:23:43 PM

Impressive performance nonetheless...there's rumor of it only dissipating 50ish watts of heat too. Anyway, it looks like this might offer more performance that initially expected, unlike with Prescott.

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July 10, 2004 10:35:28 PM

Yeah, the the Prescotts blow it away in High Temperature Scores. :wink:


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July 10, 2004 11:38:30 PM

GO AMD!!!

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July 10, 2004 11:48:44 PM

Ya theres a rumor out too that the Intel has a chip at 2ghz higher IPC and also build on 0.09u about 45 watts of heat output at that.

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July 11, 2004 12:37:52 AM

whats IPC? (I know / think it has something to do with effiency)

And i hope that they don't and it is only that...a rumor.

AMD deserve a bigger market share, becuase in general they produce the better CPU (just my opinion)

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July 11, 2004 3:15:17 PM

I'm hoping that the 90nm temps are not far off the Prescotts, I would like to see AMD's stunt with the Prescott survival kit backfire on them, would be a laugh :D 

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July 11, 2004 8:15:16 PM

Lol, you got the wrong idea. Think about it, both companies have problems with 90nm and heat, what happens? They both try and fix it. If no fix is found, then more technology is developed, therefore pushing the whole microprocessor industry further. Think before you post.

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July 11, 2004 11:41:40 PM

actually it would be better if only one side had problems in one area or another. the reason being that if thats so, that puts more rpessure on that ocmapny to solve the problem and advance ahead of its competitor, which drives inovation. The more pressure the ebtter. if boht sides have the same problems, yes it will still be pressure to suceed, but it wouldnt drive them quite as hard, and in the past has lead to both deciding to let things stay as they are for now, more content to wait.

so i hope amd's process goes well, it cna only spark a more agressive and innovative response from intel if they want to get back in it.
July 11, 2004 11:48:50 PM

Yeah, I guess so, Intel have a lot of cash, no reason they won't be able to find a solution if AMD pull it off. Although, With the dual core processors appearing, who knows what will happen.

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July 12, 2004 3:56:30 AM

ohh no i was just told :( (

screw you id rather have something working NOW, rather than sit and read about it being released 6 months from now on some german webite.. lets see now, reading about some new advanced processor that runs fast and cool, or how about actually being able to buy one?

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July 12, 2004 10:26:06 AM

Ok, I put down an AMD processor by saying it would be fun if they had the same trouble, and it would advance the industry. But I should have known the rule:

"Put down Intel all you want, but don't even try it against AMD"

You know what I mean. Someone wishes success for AMD, fine. Someone doesn't wish success for AMD, he's an Intel fanboy. I hate it when this happens, so just leave it.

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July 12, 2004 11:44:15 AM

Stop flaming B!tch.

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July 12, 2004 3:05:57 PM

IPC is instruction per clock, A64 running at 2.xx ghz can compete/beat P4 at 3.xx because they do more work every clock cycle...

That 2ghz higher Ipc chip could be describe as ummm let me think Dothan?

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July 12, 2004 8:57:51 PM

lol!

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July 12, 2004 11:57:14 PM

Pic sure looks like a Athlon XP...

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July 13, 2004 3:30:30 AM

You are right!! Especially with that big AMD 64 at the bottom.
July 13, 2004 5:54:36 AM

What's wrong with that big Athlon 64?
July 13, 2004 5:57:04 AM

Because xeon said it looked like an xp.
July 13, 2004 8:11:25 PM

Well I also noticed the lack there of a heat speader or any sign there was one.

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July 14, 2004 12:44:52 AM

Sorry for having to pull the thread on XS.

I was asked by AMD to remove the content because it is unreleased and I complied to stay in good graces with AMD.

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July 14, 2004 5:40:27 AM

Can you at least tell us if it OCs any better than the current 130nm version (on mortal cooling...not the stuff you guys use)?? Also, how long has OPPAINTER had his 90nm 3500+?

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July 14, 2004 5:21:29 PM

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Yeah, I guess so, Intel have a lot of cash, no reason they won't be able to find a solution if AMD pull it off. Although, With the dual core processors appearing, who knows what will happen.

Interesting things are bound to happen. Intel still has breathing room, but very little hype. They'll probably bring out worthwhile processors because of the pressure, but with a certain delay (say, 2005). In any case, it's a win-win situation for the customer.

Just imagine if Prescott was a screaming processor and dissipated <100W, and could scale to 4~5Ghz easily as promised. Imagine if Intel had no trouble whatsoever in enabling the 64-bit extensions in prescott. What would be the fun in that? If that were the case, then we probably wouldn't have the processors we'll get from Intel in 2005.

I mean, P-M is the future. Dual-core PM that is. Just picture a dual-core 2.13+Ghz Dothan with 4MB cache on a 1066Mhz FSB and 64-bit extensions (they'll have to get the FSB to 1066, after all, in order to be compatible with LGA775... it's twice the 533Mhz FSB we'll see in laptops).... If we see these processors by 2005, it'll be better than seeing "just" a simple 4.x Ghz Prescott <i>without all the innovations</i> they'll have to introduce to catch up! If they get a dual 2.13Ghz Dothan out the door before AMD can ready dual-core processors, they'll be well into the game... that's a big if, however, and there's also 64-bit.

Interesting outlook for the future... even if a bit unpredictable.

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July 14, 2004 5:41:24 PM

I think thats what I hate most, the sheer inpredictability of the computer industry.

For example, I bought an 865PE motherboard, thinking I was set until the end of socket 478 with it. What happens? Prescott turns up and my motherboard can't support it. This isn't too severe, since the Northwoods are clocking high anyway, but it still sucks.

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July 14, 2004 6:26:09 PM

Intel's releasing 3.73Ghz, 2mb L2 1066FSB by end of this year. Tejas stuff without the name on Scotty. Waiting on the benchies on that one. Next year dual core Cpu. 3Ghz would be real sweet. :smile:
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July 14, 2004 7:56:33 PM

specially since the prescott sux ATM...

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July 14, 2004 9:23:50 PM

To my knowledge all 865PE boards support the Prescott. What mobo model?

<A HREF="http://fugger.netfirms.com/52ghz.jpg" target="_new">5.2Ghz from Prescott</A>Current #1 non-LN2

Northwoods cant touch this. The new D0 steppings are unreal. Ive seen 5.1Ghz from a MachII cooler

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July 14, 2004 9:39:08 PM

Comments like yours are what spread stupidity to other people who dont know any better.

The Prescott is a fine processor and doing well on D0 stepping and E0 is already out.

My 5.2Ghz screen shot was done with a C1 stepping ES processor.

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July 14, 2004 9:40:26 PM

Oppainter is working on 939 now, nothing .09 micron yet.

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July 14, 2004 9:40:27 PM

Oppainter is working on 939 now, nothing .09 micron yet.

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July 14, 2004 9:43:37 PM

Yeah, Prescotts may be hot, but they are monster overclockers if you have the right cooling solution.

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July 14, 2004 10:03:24 PM

I will go slap MSI and have them fix it. That board is supposed to support Prescott. The chipset does for sure.

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July 14, 2004 10:11:15 PM

The chipset does, but the BIOS doesn't. I'm suspecting BIOS because it is so old it doesn't even support some of the newer P4's built on the Northowwod core, doesn't support extreme editions either. There won't be anymore updates because my board is officially in their archives section, which means they don't advance anymore BIOS updated etc.

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July 14, 2004 10:33:17 PM

prescotts are fine once you move past any equally clocked northwoods. we are talking for ppl that dont buy a mach II for overclocking here, clock for clock the prescott didnt outperform, but now that it has clock rates outside of the northwood, they will be the ebtter choice down the road. right now, upgrading toa prescott core is about as smart as buying into lg755 today. best to wait for a bit.
July 17, 2004 5:58:01 AM

Right now with 2.8e 925X it will suprass the performance of 3.0E on socket 478. No need to wait if you are buying a whole new system.

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