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In news:<1124814092.878749.205610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Mike
Flanagan <mikeflan@yahoo.com> says...
> I've bit the bullet and purchased a used/shopped LOTR pinball.
> <cheers, boos in background> I was so excited.
> Unfortunately, after doing some extensive google searching, I'm at a
> loss. Aron (who's posts I enjoy and miss lately) posted that it's a
> "mechanical nightmare", the pinball equivalent of a Pinto or Corvaire.
> Having owned neither of these cars and only the vaguest memories of
> PLUMES OF THICK BLACK SMOKE AND HEAVY FIRE, I'm beginning to suffer a
> bad case of buyers remorse.
> Is it really that much of a nightmare? Will I *ever* make a ring shot?
> Is the Palantir target going to simply fall off completely and become
> another pinball, a bit less shiny perhaps? Should I remove my spinner
> assembly? Are the flippers really made out of semolina durum? Do any
> switches work on this game, let alone the bulbs? Should I just have
> the playfield taken out and insert an Orbitor playfield in its stead?
We've had the game at home for half a year, manufacturing date Feb 20
2004, sat in the box at the distributor's place until I bought it almost
6 months ago. Installed v9.00 software right away.
I don't have the figures here for exact number of plays, and hours of
playtime. It is the only game I have at home, and it gets a lot of play
by me, my partner, and friends (who range from never-played-pinball-
before to does-very-well-at-the-national-competitions).
OK, first the things I've had to do:
* The *idiotic* screw-called-post-left-of-the-ring-ramp had to be
exchanged for a proper one of course. The 'official fix kit' from Stern
does not look like a good solution. I used an old WMS post as
recommended by earlier discussions on this (check Dan's post for part
nr, took mine from an old WCS'94, probably 02-4659-1 + 23-6556).
* The solder on the Legolas-ramp-made-switch wasn't so good, needed
resoldering some time ago, worked fine out of the box.
* The ring-through-made-switch (in the trough behind the ring, almost
never used except for DTR) had to be bent very slightly to register
better after a while, worked fine out of the box though.
* Ring fuse blew once, replaced it, works fine again since.
Things that were not caused by technical problems and I didn't have to
do, but did anyway to improve the game IMO:
-LOTR specific-
* Put weapons/staffs back on all the characters on the playfield.
* Changed ugly late-style huge metal sword lock protector to clear
plastic one (Keith Elliott's, very nice, recommended!).
-general-
* Added clear vinyl flipper button cabinet protectors to not end up with
extremely ugly wear here, like most on-location games show (highly
recommended!).
* Changed slingshot plastic protectors from ugly metal ones to nice
clear plastic ones.
* Felt style leg protectors.
Over to things other people mentioned but I've had no or very little
trouble with:
* "Gollum VUK bounce out" - don't know what you are talking about
actually?
* "Gollum VUK hard to make" - not a problem, I can shoot from both
flippers to either make the VUK or to go through to the bumpers
* "sticky flippers" - never experienced
* "tired flippers" aka "not able to make the ring shot after long
play" - never experienced even after playing the game for a whole day,
never played my game with the older software in it so I can't say if
it's thanks to the updates or not
* "balrog switch not registering" - never experienced, yes it needs a
strong shot, not just a flimsy touch, that's the way it should be imho
* "palantir registration troubles" - my palantir target is slightly
leaning to the left (as on every other unmodded LOTR that has had a few
plays) and as long as I let it be that way the target registers very
well, if I set it straight it registers erratically, haven't really
looked more into this as I don't find it much of a problem
* "spinner problems" - never had any, never had to adjust it
* "balrog flasher" - the originally installed one still works fine, no
need for a LED kit here
* "missing lamps"/"lots of bulb changing" - one #44 bulb was not mounted
when I got the game, and I've had to change a number of bulbs over the
months, but nothing exceptional at all
* "damaged playfield/cabinet out of the box" - everything minty fine
* "bad quality DMD going bad/dead on you" - no problem so far
* "spot ring target directs out-of-orbit ball SDTM" - not here, lands
nicely on right flipper
* "ball traps here-and-there" - nowhere except above left outlane post
if set at smallest outlane position (add an extra post to fix this if
smallest outlane desired?)
* "ring ramp needs re-alignment" - no problem with alignment here
Things that others have reported as problems that aren't really problems
at all IMO:
* "knocker sound too loud" - RTFM, change settings to lower knocker
sound (for the extremists, add a 'real' knocker if you want to, the
support is there, and remove fake knocker sound)
* "volume changes unexpectedly" - RTFM, change settings to remove (or
decrease) dynamic volume effect
* "strange sounds with some games with the newest ROMs" - I believe
service bulletin #157 addresses this
And finally, something that still annoys me, though very slightly:
* "right orbit shot during war of the ents does not always stop at
Orthanc" - slightly annoying, but it depends on how the shot was made, I
would like to make a (probably quite easy) mod one day to improve this,
I've seen others fix it with just some tape (or post rubber?) around the
pin
I think this sums up to being less trouble than the average pin with a
similar amount of things-that-can-go-wrong.
LOTR is still the favorite game for me (and my girl) to have at home,
and yes, we do a lot of playing on MM and all the other 'highly thought
of' DMD-era Williams/Bally games (AFM is her other favorite).
I have to chime in with Brannon and say that it's a wonderful machine
and I'm sure that you will not regret buying it, rules and gameplay are
there to be loved.
Hope this helps you feel good while you wait for the delivery. Use your
time to read up on the rulesheet (or even the manual) meanwhile.
/Kristoffer
Now please Stern, give me a really good PotC machine to match it...
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