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CERN Ready To Test Fire Its Time Machine On September 10

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August 8, 2008 9:52:27 PM

I remember when this first made the news over a year and some ago. They actually calculated the chance of this ending the world. It was something crazy to the -18th power :) 
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August 8, 2008 10:14:07 PM

what the hell is the purpose of this thing?
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August 8, 2008 11:16:31 PM

same question what the hell does it do??
it would be nice if anyone can convert the above article into a language that normal people can understand

i would really like to know what it does and i think their would be many other people who have no clue on what the above article means..
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August 8, 2008 11:21:14 PM

To attempt to recreate the Big Bang and hopefully try and understand how the universe began.
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August 8, 2008 11:52:27 PM

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To attempt to recreate the Big Bang and hopefully try and understand how the universe began.


Yep. The huge amounts of force colliding simulate the beginning stages of the universe on a miniature scale. Scientists are hoping to see what exactly happened in the early stages of the Big Bang, as the end result is pretty apparent.
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August 9, 2008 5:40:16 AM

Abstract from Dr. Rosslers plea to the world, copy available on LHCFacts.org.

A nightmarish situation, that can still be hoped to be averted in time through communication within the scientific community, is drawn attention to. Only a few weeks remain to find out whether the danger is real or nothing but a mirage. After this time window is closed, it will take years until we know whether or not we are doomed. The story line has all the features of a best-selling novel. The reader is asked to contribute constructively.

Quote from Dr. Otto E. Rossler, Professor Theoretical Biochemist, visiting Professor of Theoretical Physics, inventor of the Rossler Attractor, founder of Endophysics, winner of the 2003 Chaos Award of the University of Liege and the 2003 Rene Descartes Award.
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August 9, 2008 1:05:08 PM

The purpose of the high energy collisions is to try to detect particles that are predicted by modern quantum field theories, but have not yet been detected empirically. Detection or non-detection of any of these particles would be a great step forward for particle physics.
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August 9, 2008 3:10:42 PM

guess Jean-Claude Van Damme will be getting calls to become the worlds time cop for real this time LOL
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August 9, 2008 3:51:39 PM

Ahh Yes. The `Big Bang'.
That obvious natural phenomenon that just like all natural explosions and bangs since - happened to create perfectly spherical balls of rock floating about in space...
Odd that that was, thank goodness that dinosaurs and stuff died so that they could get buried in specific locations and magicaly become `fossil fuel' for years to come..
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August 9, 2008 4:01:35 PM

"Once stable circulating beams have been established, they will be brought into collision, and the final step will be to commission the LHC?s acceleration system to boost the energy to 5 TeV, taking particle physics research to a new frontier."

errr.... wrong paste? why was this posted twice?
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August 9, 2008 4:30:17 PM

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While the particle beams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beams created in the Tevatron top out a maximum energy of just under 1 TeV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt (1 billion electron volts), the LHC can create beams with up to 7 TeV, translating into a maximum collision energy of 14 TeV when two beams cross.


Am I the only one here remembering you are not supposed to cross the beams?
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August 9, 2008 8:53:10 PM

ntkeith, you have absolutely seen GhostBusters too many times. We are speaking of theoretical physics, not factual nuclear powered ghost hunter equipment.
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August 9, 2008 8:53:49 PM

Ooops, I meant fictitious not factual, sorry my bad.
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August 10, 2008 2:07:59 AM

I thought the Big Bang theory was considered ridiculous because it required imaginary invisible undetectable things like dark matter and dark energy to fill in the gaps in mass.
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August 10, 2008 3:45:50 AM

Scientists enjoy smashing things, just like all of us. The only difference is they prefer to do it on a small scale and at supercalafreakingawesome speeds. They spare no expense for the best quality smahing equipment.
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August 10, 2008 6:16:10 AM

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I thought the Big Bang theory was considered ridiculous because it required imaginary invisible undetectable things like dark matter and dark energy to fill in the gaps in mass.
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I think you have it a little backwards: Big Bang theory was considered ridiculous way back before cosmic microwave background radiation was discovered by Penzias and Wilson in 1965, the actual flash of light, still heard on microwave frequency, the remnant of the BB and right now it is the only scientific theory "still standing". Dark matter is required to explain why Galaxies stay together, instead of flying apart, apparently gravity holding them together is much stronger than we can account for from visible mass and dark energy is trying to explain why expansion of the universe seem to be still accelerating, instead of slowing down. That's where the CERN's LHC comes in, to either prove the BB theory with discovery of new, already predicted particles, or totally new set of questions requiring new theories.
I think the same people were predicting doom and the end of the world when accelerator at Fermie lab was being build many years ago and we already know how right those predictions were.
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August 10, 2008 12:22:40 PM

Dumbed downAhh Yes. The `Big Bang'.That obvious natural phenomenon that just like all natural explosions and bangs since - happened to create perfectly spherical balls of rock floating about in space...Odd that that was, thank goodness that dinosaurs and stuff died so that they could get buried in specific locations and magicaly become `fossil fuel' for years to come..

ever hear of gravity ???
and as for fossil fuel, you probably actually thought that the basis of the theory of how it came about is a load of dinosaurs dying in the one place right? "It is generally accepted that they formed from the fossilized remains of dead plants and animals[1] by exposure to heat and pressure in the Earth's crust over hundreds of millions of years.[2] This is known as the biogenic theory and was first introduced by Georg Agricola in 1556 and later by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1757. There is an opposing more modern theory that the more volatile hydrocarbons, especially natural gas, are formed by abiogenic processes, that is no living material was involved in their formation."As for this organic material all dying in one place, have you ever heard of a forest?? A lot less simple than a shitload of t-rex's dying in the one spot and turning into oil eh? how about you actually look at the science behind these things before you go and have the arrogance to challenge thousands of scientists without even the knowledge that planet formation is the result of gravity, wait you know what gravity is dont you? you know the thing that holds you down? hmmm based on your retarded comment probably not
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August 10, 2008 1:12:29 PM

Claimintru that information you saw was created by a pr guy he is not even a scientist, there has been a large number of physicist against this even legal action is being taken to stop this project.



what could happen 1 of 3 things

1) nothing happens and they get results

2) they create mini- black holes at velocities slow than speed of light they settle in core of the earth and grow, 5-30 years earth destroyed.

3) they create a stranglet particle it then causes a chain reaction with all surrounding matter and the earth explodes.

Thats a 50% chance according to a real group of physicist.

Its like give a vial of nitro to a monkey , the monkey has no idea what it is and has a 50% chance of blowing himself up.

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August 10, 2008 2:30:14 PM

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While the particle beamshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beams created in the Tevatron top out a maximum energy of just under 1 TeV (1 billion electron volts)


I'm no physicist, but isn't TeV a teraelectron Volt, or a trillion electron volts?
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August 10, 2008 10:01:52 PM

Tera = 10 to the power 12 = billion
Trillion = 10 to the power 18 = exa
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August 11, 2008 3:12:50 AM

Well I tried to read the article but couldn't understand over half of it so all I have to say is:

Geez Whiz...
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August 11, 2008 4:06:50 AM

they are looking for particles like the mass particle. The thing that actually gives atoms their mass. some of the biggest fears and they have theorys that they can create a miniature black hole... great gg
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August 11, 2008 11:06:27 AM

ThePatriotTera = 10 to the power 12 = billion
Trillion = 10 to the power 18 = exa

ThePatriot, how many bytes in a terabyte? Isn't it a trillion bytes?
1,000,000,000,000 (10 to the power 12)? (assuming 1,000 bytes per kilobyte) A gigabyte is a billion bytes.
Wouldn't a TeV, a teraelectron volt follow the same logic?

Or am I mixing systems of math?

-- bigships
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August 11, 2008 11:02:11 PM

bigshipsThePatriot, how many bytes in a terabyte? Isn't it a trillion bytes? 1,000,000,000,000 (10 to the power 12)? (assuming 1,000 bytes per kilobyte) A gigabyte is a billion bytes.Wouldn't a TeV, a teraelectron volt follow the same logic?Or am I mixing systems of math?-- bigships

Yes, you're mixing base 2 with base 10. 2 to the 30th power is a gigabyte, 2 to the 40th power a terabyte, and so on. They're talking about base 10 when they say TeV.
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August 18, 2008 11:32:16 AM

One of the primary purposes of this device is to detect a graviton leaving our universe and going into higher or parallel dimensions. In doing so, M-Theory will be greatly substantiated. The theory is that our universe is floating in 11 dimensional space and that all matter in our universe is connected in single membrane. We will potentially gain much knowledge from the experiment, the most expensive scientific experiment done so far.
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December 2, 2011 5:42:49 PM

As if life were not terrifying enough, they want to run particles at 99.9 percent of the speed of light. I believe small black holes have already been created and are pulling more and more at multidimensional fabric in the future experiments- which in non linear time- have already occurred .ANY strange occurrence should be looked at very warily ; as holes are in the time/space fabric creating unknown effects on the present and past- from future experiments already created- backwash effect ripples.Sorry, .DR.STRANGELOVE
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