LOTR or TZ???

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First of all, I have googled this topic already but want fresh opinions
from the group...

Only have one pin right now (CFTBL)close to adding my second one. I
was laser focused on TZ until recently. LOTR is starting to grow on me
and evil thoughts of it being my next pin are festering in my head?

Am I absolutely insane to be considering LOTR over TZ?

Creature is fun but not near deep enough for me. I like the challenge
of a difficult to reach wizard mode. This is what drew me to TZ.
Unfortunately, TZs aren't readily available on route (Compared to
LOTR). The TZs I have found have various issues that unfortunately
make them poor represenatives of a well cared for home TZ. That said I
truly havent spent time on a well shopped one. Pinmame has given me a
good indication of TZs play. Enough said...I love the TZ theme and I
love the TZ depth of game play...case closed I'm buying a TZ next no
"Ifs" "Ands" or "Buts".

.....enter LOTR (insert dramatic door creaking open sound....)

Played it a year ago and thought "Ehh" fun but no big deal. I was
underwhelmed by the playfield, the photoshop pixelated playfield art,
"chessey action figures (IMHO)" and gameplay was ho hum. Let me say
that I am a big fan of the movies so the theme appeals to me. I
continued to play it on location at a couple places and have found it
strangely growing on me as I began to understand what I was doing. Now
I am excited to find one and play it on location when I have the
opportunity. The art doesn't look so "Photoshop" anymore, the action
figures aren't chessey and the shots are satisfying and varied. Add
the great depth of ruleset, Awesome sound package (certainly compared
to Creature) coupled with an overall "Darker" feel and I may have found
my second pin! I feel that the darker more serious LOTR might be a
better contrast to my Creature which is much more lighthearted.

So am I crazy or what?

Let's think of it also in these terms...which is the better investment?
Caveat: Pins aint the stock market and I (More specifically my wife
and kids...when I die) am not going to get rich by owning then selling
either pin. But what is the more "Sound" choice from a value
perspective.

I can blame a bit of this on Terry (pinball life) as I stopped by his
place for a coin door a few weeks back and we talked a bit about his
LOTR, among other things. He called it an "Adrenaline" game which
inspired me to check it out again at a local gameroom Thanks Terry ;)

So there you have it any passionate thoughts on my dilema (what
....passionate thoughts on RGP??? Never...lol)
 
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"You are now entering a dimension of mind."

> Am I absolutely insane to be considering LOTR over TZ?

Nope. I own both, and like both a LOT. They have a very different feel,
LOTR being more "flow" and TZ being more "stop 'n' go." I am constantly
bouncing back and forth as to which game I prefer. I expect both will
be permanent in my small collection. (3 games now, with room for 4)

If a tough wizard mode is very important to you, LOTR is a better
choice. I've never made it to Valinor, but I certainly have completed
LITZ. They are not comparable tasks.

It's a tough choice you have before you, but both options are very
good. :)

Best,
Matt
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I will take a Bally/Williams game over a Stern any day! Better built
and a better value in the long run
Ray
 
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I own both but play LOTR a lot more than TZ. I just like the flow and
challenge of the LOTR more. I am a big of the TZ show but I do find the
TZ machine a little slow at times. It's a great game but not as good as
LOTR.

ORbian
 
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I like both, and I've owned both.

I prefer LOTR as it keeps me coming back for more.

As for the better investment, I don't think either one will make you
rich, so what does it matter? TZ will cost less initially. For me,
LOTR is more fun.

-Brannon
 
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Tz is the Greatest Pinball of all time!
LOTR is "clunky".
TZ will hold it's value longer (shouldn't buy as an investment anyway)
LOTR are still being rerun, I think.
no more TZ's being made.
dump your creature to get a LOTR.
flat out buy the TZ.
l8r
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LOTR was my first NIB game. The first 20 or 30 games didn't do much for
me because I didn't really understand the game. But once I began to
comprehend the ruleset and experience the accompanying light and sound
effects, I fell in love! I say get LOTR. If it's starting to tingle
your senses now, you will only grow to appreciate it more when you own
it and can play it at length. I think this is an important aspect to
judging games with complex rulesets. Get to know the game before you
dis the name!
MattyB
 
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Sorry, this is not a passionate thought.

hmm, I have heard that Value is a function of Quality over Price. How
would you define Quality? Which features in a pin do you want the
most?

If you have an analytical side, the Kepner-Tregoe decision-making
method, might help you.

Your mileage may vary.
 
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i've owned both and now only have the TZ.
miss LOTR a little but not enough to buy another one.

I pick TZ - I LOVE the theme and backglass.

can't go wrong with either one, though. buy a NOS playfield now and buy one
later off route and get the TZ while you still can.

Dan


<skbrothers@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1124828009.423860.33480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> First of all, I have googled this topic already but want fresh opinions
> from the group...
>
> Only have one pin right now (CFTBL)close to adding my second one. I
> was laser focused on TZ until recently. LOTR is starting to grow on me
> and evil thoughts of it being my next pin are festering in my head?
>
> Am I absolutely insane to be considering LOTR over TZ?
>
> Creature is fun but not near deep enough for me. I like the challenge
> of a difficult to reach wizard mode. This is what drew me to TZ.
> Unfortunately, TZs aren't readily available on route (Compared to
> LOTR). The TZs I have found have various issues that unfortunately
> make them poor represenatives of a well cared for home TZ. That said I
> truly havent spent time on a well shopped one. Pinmame has given me a
> good indication of TZs play. Enough said...I love the TZ theme and I
> love the TZ depth of game play...case closed I'm buying a TZ next no
> "Ifs" "Ands" or "Buts".
>
> ....enter LOTR (insert dramatic door creaking open sound....)
>
> Played it a year ago and thought "Ehh" fun but no big deal. I was
> underwhelmed by the playfield, the photoshop pixelated playfield art,
> "chessey action figures (IMHO)" and gameplay was ho hum. Let me say
> that I am a big fan of the movies so the theme appeals to me. I
> continued to play it on location at a couple places and have found it
> strangely growing on me as I began to understand what I was doing. Now
> I am excited to find one and play it on location when I have the
> opportunity. The art doesn't look so "Photoshop" anymore, the action
> figures aren't chessey and the shots are satisfying and varied. Add
> the great depth of ruleset, Awesome sound package (certainly compared
> to Creature) coupled with an overall "Darker" feel and I may have found
> my second pin! I feel that the darker more serious LOTR might be a
> better contrast to my Creature which is much more lighthearted.
>
> So am I crazy or what?
>
> Let's think of it also in these terms...which is the better investment?
> Caveat: Pins aint the stock market and I (More specifically my wife
> and kids...when I die) am not going to get rich by owning then selling
> either pin. But what is the more "Sound" choice from a value
> perspective.
>
> I can blame a bit of this on Terry (pinball life) as I stopped by his
> place for a coin door a few weeks back and we talked a bit about his
> LOTR, among other things. He called it an "Adrenaline" game which
> inspired me to check it out again at a local gameroom Thanks Terry ;)
>
> So there you have it any passionate thoughts on my dilema (what
> ...passionate thoughts on RGP??? Never...lol)
>
 
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No, not at all. If you haven't the time or skill to keep
one of the "older" pins up, a newer, more reliable
game isn't out of the question at all. A new or newer
game is always a wise choice.

Gameplay? Well, that's something only you can
determine what suits you. I've had a TZ for years,
and enjoy it.

Only seen LOTR in pictures....

--
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
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<skbrothers@comcast.net> wrote
> First of all, I have googled this topic already but want fresh opinions
> from the group...
>
> Only have one pin right now (CFTBL)close to adding my second one. I
> was laser focused on TZ until recently. LOTR is starting to grow on me
> and evil thoughts of it being my next pin are festering in my head?
>
> Am I absolutely insane to be considering LOTR over TZ?
 

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