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am i right in saying that this chip comes with a 1mb l2 cache..i know it started off as 512 its jus im sure that somewhere ive seen amd 64 3000 with 1mb l2 cache. Also would you say that the k8t800 is a good motherboard for genreal use for overclocking? means that this chip isnt dual channel wud u say two 512's or 1 gig of 3700 ram? thanks

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Yes the AMD 64 3000+ has the 1 MB of L2 cache. As for the ram, a single chip is mariginally faster than two chips if they are not in dual channel, but I doubt you will notice the difference.

Personally I think the dual channel makes a big difference. On my old computer I was using 2x256MB DDR2100, my motherboard crapped out on me, and so I purchased a new motherboard that supported dual channel, with the same ram with dual channel enabled, my PCMark 2002 score increased 500 points.

Also, I posted this in a another topic too, I have a computer with a 2800+ XP chip, and one with a 3000+ 64-bit chip, the 2800+ chip scores almost 900 points higher on PCMark 2002 than the 64-bit chip.

As far as the motherboard, I can't speak from expierence. My question is why? I have messed around with overclocking some just to learn, but I have never had a reason to overclock? I ran a 2100 chip for quite a while on all sorts of games, have recently upgraded to a 2800 chip, and have never run into any performance issues?

Reply to Mr5oh

I just recently bought the 3000+ and the ASUS K8V SE Deluxe (the chipset ur tlakin about). I really like it, you can overclock it in bios and the board comes with some nice software. Although it is nice, i heard the nForce 250 was favored around here...

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Reply to krayzeemunkee

Actually, the 3000 only has 512 cache. At least that's the only version they sell at newegg, but I'm pretty sure 3200 was the lowest speed of A64 with the 1mb cache...

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Reply to Obtuse

Don't know whay Newegg is selling but I am using (right now) a 64-bit 3000+ chip that is roughly 5-6 months old now, and has the 1 mb L2 cache.

Reply to Mr5oh

Minor correction, to add, I am useing a mobile 3000+ 64-bit processor, the mobile version has 1 MB of L2 cache, the desktop version has 512 KB.

Reply to Mr5oh

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Also, I posted this in a another topic too, I have a computer with a 2800+ XP chip, and one with a 3000+ 64-bit chip, the 2800+ chip scores almost 900 points higher on PCMark 2002 than the 64-bit chip.



the reason for this is because it's a laptop, which probably has cool n quiet enabled.


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Reply to DonnieDarko

one more vote that AMD 64 3000+ is only 512k L2 cache.
Its been listed wrong alot of places. Just go check AMD's website mang.
www.amd.com or type amd and then press ctrl+enter. u get a nice pic of
an american who pisses the world off named Lance Armstrong. on a side-note
shouldn't amd name thier next chips Lance, and then Armstrong? That would
be awesome. We RULE BICYCLE PEDDLING IN FRENCH TOURS!!!!

AMD Athlon XP 2100+-=-1Gb PC2700-=-40Gb WDD HDD-=-
16x DvD-=-32x12x40 Lite on CD/RW-=-Floppy, "Who needs a damned floppy!"-=-ECS K7S5A Pro-=- Geforce 4 Ti 4400 128Mb 4x-=-

Reply to JJKP77

Cool'n'quiet is installed on the laptop, and for most things the CPU sits right about 800 mhz, during the benchmarking the CPU goes to the max clock speed.

My question is this though, shouldn't the processors be running at full potential during benchmarking? It scores no less than 5500 on PCMark02, which is really a pretty healthy score for a stock processor.

I haven't been able to find a way to disable this cool'n'quiet control though.

Reply to Mr5oh

Athlon64 3000+ comes with 512kb L2 cache

nForce3 250 based mobos are good for overclocking

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Reply to Spitfire_x86

Ok, I disabled the cool'n'quiet, I uninstalled the CPU driver, and the clock speed no longer changes. My PCMark02 score did go up a little, but it is still 570 points shy of the 2800+ XP chip

Reply to Mr5oh

if you overclocking with VIA, get the K8T800 <b>Pro</b>
however, nForce3 250 is recommended.

Reply to Nights_L

>u get a nice pic of
>an american who pisses the world off named Lance Armstrong.

I just thought about this: too bad Lance actually dominated most of the tour, thereby wearing the yellow leaders-shirt which doesnt have any AMD's logo's on it LOL.


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Reply to P4Man

so wat 3700 memory shud i get ne suggestions theres jus so much out there, bareing in mind my budget for ram is 200. thnaks for ` gig of ram

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