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August 5, 2004 11:18:54 PM

Hi,

I want to build myself a computer: price +-1000$, main use is graphic design programs and games.
Does anybody have any advise on which (brand and/or type) processor, mainboard, memory, hard disk (IDE or serial ATA?) and graphics card I should use?

I would like to have a P4 processor. and 120 GB diskspace, 512 MB ram is enough for me...

PS: What about the Intel® 865/875 chipset for my mainboard?

thank you alot!

Alfonzo

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by alfonzodams on 08/05/04 07:51 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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August 5, 2004 11:25:48 PM

You could do worse than to copy me. :smile:


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August 6, 2004 2:04:37 AM

if you can afford what i got, then copy me!

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August 6, 2004 2:24:49 AM

Quote:
if you can afford what i got, then copy me

should of said copy me but save a couple bucks and get a 3.2c instead of the prescot. Not to bash you, but the northwood is a better processor than the prescot in pretty much all fields.

AMD64 2800+
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Sapphire 9800pro 128mb
10K WD Raptor
August 6, 2004 2:28:23 AM

i875/865 are both speedy and solid, i would get i865...(money issue :eek:  )
Cybercraig got a nice rig, copy him if you can, but you could save a few more bucks by not taking that RAM..that's good quality rams
August 6, 2004 2:36:31 AM

Good point. If I had it to do again I would probably get Ballistix or OCZ. :smile:

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August 6, 2004 4:43:37 AM

If I had to actually PAY for RAM, I'd try to get Ballistix, and still I'd come up short!

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August 6, 2004 8:21:07 AM

>I would like to have a P4 processor.

Wy would you like that, when an A64 most likely gives you better performance (especially for games), less heat, and more potential for the future (AMD64) ? Just curious..

>PS: What about the Intel® 865/875 chipset for my mainboard?

No good with an Athlon 64 ;) 

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August 6, 2004 2:02:56 PM

Your name is so ironic. All i see you do is recomend AMD.
Dont get me wrong, if AMD was i woman i would stalk her AND MAKE HER LOVE ME!!!!

for my recomendation.....$1000 gets you a gig of RAM, a larger HD (200GB IDE easily) and a A64 3200+ and smoke that P4 in games and hold its own in Graphic design.
August 6, 2004 2:11:29 PM

>Your name is so ironic. All i see you do is recomend AMD.

All I see is people asking purchase recommendation for gaming. What else makes more sense for them than an A64?

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August 6, 2004 2:22:54 PM

Yeah, i know that they are asking for gaming recomendations. and that the A64 kills Intel.
There are some that push Intel no matter what, and with a name like that, at first glance i would assume you would be one.

Its all good though, i just thought it was ironic.
August 7, 2004 2:02:07 AM

Yea, he's a real turncoat. I heard the Intel bunnieman has a contract out on him. :lol: 

Abit IS7 - 2.8C @ 3.4 - Mushkin PC4000 (2 X 512) - Sapphire 9800Pro - TT 420 watt Pure Power
Samsung 120gb ATA-100 - Maxtor 40gb ATA - 100
Sony DRU-510A - THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!
August 7, 2004 2:11:49 AM

Quote:
should of said copy me but save a couple bucks and get a 3.2c instead of the prescot. Not to bash you, but the northwood is a better processor than the prescot in pretty much all fields.

Doesn't the Northwood cost more than the Prescott.
August 7, 2004 2:13:01 AM

The best chipset available today (my opinion) is the Nforce3-250. Get an Asus K8N-E deluxe mobo. The MSI K8N Neo is also good, but make sure you get the new bios.
August 7, 2004 2:20:23 AM

lol yes by a few bucks, but shhhhhh, I'm trying to get this guy to make the smart decision if he goes intel.

AMD64 2800+
MSI Neo-Fis2r
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Sapphire 9800pro 128mb
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August 7, 2004 2:10:10 PM

Less heat? Most of the A64's run around the same temps I do. I don't see any edge in the A64 doing graphics design work. If he was going pure gaming it would be different.

Abit IS7 - 2.8C @ 3.4 - Mushkin PC4000 (2 X 512) - Sapphire 9800Pro - TT 420 watt Pure Power
Samsung 120gb ATA-100 - Maxtor 40gb ATA - 100
Sony DRU-510A - THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!
August 7, 2004 2:38:03 PM

HI...

Alright down to business, When it comes to graphic design i dont have a clue which is better for you. I would guess they would be about even (+ or - 5% of eachother). Gaming the A64 kills the P4.

So...what ratio of graphic design and gaming will you do?

if its bascially a graphic design maching that you want to game occationally then P4 might be the way to go depending on who is better for the specific programs you are using.

If you will use them equally for gaming and graphic design i would recomend a A64, mostly because gaming is more fun to spend money on then work.

If you will use it for gaming and graphic design occationally, clear choice is A64.

First decide on the processor, then you can chose a board, then RAM. HD, optical drives are pretty universal and people all love different ones and there are a lot of good choices.

This all depends on what you want to do with your machine. and what if anything you are salvaging from other computers. (i.e. monitor, keyboard, mouse, case, PSU...)
August 9, 2004 7:28:33 PM

I'd recommend A64 for almost anything someone wants to do. I mean, for most people on this board, 5 fps more in games is more important then images and movies taking longer to encode. That being said, if someone wanted a Dedicated video/image editing rig, I'd have no qualms recommending intel. I don't think there's that many athlon fanboys on this board, but A64 is better and cheaper than P4 right now. And yeah, intel chipsets are awesome, but now so is the Nforce3, so there is really no disadavantage unless we're talking about the aforementioned case.

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August 9, 2004 7:45:19 PM

The main disadvantage is the lack of flexibility when choosing mobos. There just aren't a lot of A64 mobos around yet, even more so if you consider s939!!!

While, with the P4, you have a lot of choice (s478), even sub-$100.

This is the only problem....

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August 9, 2004 9:36:13 PM

My computer will come to around $1000-
-AthlonXP 2500+ Mobile($90)
-NF7-S Rev.2($85)
-Kingston 2x256mb PC3200($95)
-DVD-RW drive mentioned above($90)
-Antec 350w Mid-Tower($70)
-Logitech Z640 Speakers($60)
-17" NEC/Mitshubishi Monitor($150)
-Mouse+Keyboard($30)
-ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128mb($225)
-Good Heatsink(~$60?)
-Miscellaneous($50?)

All this comes to around $1000, you can overclock the 2500+ to 2.2ghz, I have mine at 2.4ghz and it idles at 34c. This is a great setup for under $1000.

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