Mobile Athlon 64 3200+ vs Mobile P4 w/HT 3.4 ghz?

Zal

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Very simple question, which would you choose?
1) athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0 ghz (800 mhz fsb)
2) P4 w/HT 3.4 ghz (800 mhz fsb)

for a laptop, power wise :p

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P4Man

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"Power wise" meaning battery life related, right ? A64 ought to be better, but neither will be really good. If batterly life is your main concern, I would suggest looking at a Pentium M.

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Zal

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Sorry, my post was a bit misleading.. i meant performance wise, and "lastability"

i imagined that the athlon 64 would be better for longer, as it has a 64 bit processor, and with the upcomming 64 bit windows patch, would be fadster overall than the P4 3.4ghz
 

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Pentium M for sure.

Very high performance, very low power usage, and 64-bits won't be needed on laptops until you are ready to upgrade anyway.

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i would choose the P4 3.4 HT definitely , the mobile version has power saving features. very good performing Laptop a toshiba P4 3.4ghz HT 800fsb model. here is a thread about one person who just bought one! This laptop did 25,000 pts in Aquamark!

<A HREF="http://arc.aquamark3.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4060&perpage=16&pagenumber=1" target="_new">http://arc.aquamark3.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4060&perpage=16&pagenumber=1</A>

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P4Man

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Shouldn't you be recommending a 85W "mobile" Prescott ? I mean it does have this all important SSE3 and 1Mb cache and it is without a doubt the most "powerfull" notebook money can buy. In fact, its so powerfull you'll burn your fingers while typing! that is, if the battery doesn't catch fire first, and you don't get a heart attack watching your cat get sucked into, and consequently chopped into pieces and spit out again by the 130 dBA, 200 CFM fan.

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Kanavit

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nah, i would not recommend prescott for mobile needs. prescott for desktop only! the P4 northwood is still a very good cpu especially the P4 3.40-M 800fsb HT cpu.

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endyen

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Not an answerable question. Laptops come as a whole package. You can not say I want this cpu, this graphics card, this hdd, this ram, this screen.
The way things are right now, packages for Intel are much better than for A64.
 

DonnieDarko

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the P4 northwood is still a very good cpu especially the P4 3.40-M 800fsb HT cpu
"still a very good cpu" Yes, it's actually a better cpu then your 3.2e.

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I would probably go with the Pentium for mobile so for once... Kanavit is probably correct. However since you are new here I must inform you that Kanavit is a blubbering idiot who really doesn't know his head from his as$. Just look at the Aquamark forums, he is even infamouse there, the title of the thread is "First Run New Laptop Toy....Kanavit will Poop, it's a P4! OMG!". So... just warning, don't listen to anything else he says...


ANYTHING ELSE

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phial

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lol man it seems so mean how we crap on him :(

poor guy :(


but it has to be said i guess

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OMG WOLFMASTERPRIME LOL. hes amazing, such a fanboy. look at his signature (he or someone in that forum makes those for members), and look at the labels and marketing terms. they are define brand-name whores


that benchmark favors nvidia cards and Intel chips. basically the opposite of real life, and these guys eat it up. i tried participating in that forum, but those guys are.. .well.. clueless


half them dont even know what i meant when i mentioned clock speed of the ram and gpu, explaining how to overclock. <A HREF="http://www.designwolf.com/images/lapcrapsmall.jpg" target="_new"> Look, his laptop has 513 megs of ram LOL!</A>

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yeah I saw that too.... found it to be an interesting number.

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phial

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they are novices, too bad because otherwise it would be an interesting place to post

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BeyRevRa

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It wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't put it in that massive advertisement or whatever the hell that is... might as well be a "kick me" sign.

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Your quote from aquamark boards, "btw, thx for supporting Intel"
WTF was the point of saying that???
Do you work for them or something?
Why are you so inlove with a company?
Jesus christ, I'm afraid if you ever meet the president of intel you'd wildly butt rape him!!!

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BeyRevRa

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Donnie.... you can't lose with Gigahertz...

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Zal

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Ok, heres my aquamark 3 benchmark comparrisons...

My Desktop (athlon xp 3200+ @ 2.2 ghz, 400 mhz fsb, 1gb dual channel ddr500 kingston hyperx, 256mb ati radeon 9800 xt)

gfx score : 5611
cpu score : 6633
triscore : 39681

Laptop (athlon 64 3200+ @ 2 ghz, 800 mhz fsb, 1 gb kingston ram, ati radeon mobility 9600 128mb)

GFX : 2789
CPU : 8033
Triscore : 23147

this is with stock items (ofcourse), no tweaking of any sort, no overclocking etc.

my laptop seems to beat his before tweaking.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Zal on 08/14/04 12:53 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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I must agree, i think that would be the best day of Kanavit`s life.

Not the best day for the Intel President, because he would not be able to sit on a chair the first weeks, he would remember Kanavit a long loong Time.
Mhew maybe he likes it :eek:)




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Looks like intel spent more on bribing reviewers to cover up it aint that great than they did in R&D, you know what im talking about Tom !
 

phial

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They may be novices, but did you see WMP's aquamark score on his systems. 72,889 with an A64 is pretty high for a novice, but 68,149 on an xp, now that is something.


he gets 39k with a 9600pro. i get about 44k with my 9800pro (i get 6200 in 3dmark03, 420/360) i mean COMMON. obviously he is messing with detail settings. youd be suprised how low the values will go if you edit then via registry. .. those scores dont represent the performance youd get with normal settings...

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