building around s-775?

[ueberbobo]

first of all im sorry about my bad english and general noobness

im building a new computer, mid-range priced, good enough to play new games but not too pricey, im not that hardcore.
was thinking about getting a s-775 2.8Ghz but im confused about some things..
first of all i cant seem to find a motherboard that says it supports agp8x, just pci-express. am i not looking hard enough or does one of these support agp8x as well as pci-express?

generally what are your thoughts about the s-775, am i better of with s-478 if i want to keep costs reasonable? also how does my choice between these affect what memory i can use, what are the pros and cons there? (again i want to keep costs reasonable.)
ive decided to get a radeon 9600XT 128mb as this was recommended btw if that helps decide anything...

i havnt kept up with the new tech lately so im kinda lost and very grateful for any help...

 

[P4Man]

have a look at the THGC buyers guide, sticky topic in this thread. read it, come back, and then ask us which A64 and motherboard you'd better buy, then we will tell you to get a A64 3000+ with a MSI K8N Neo Platinum.

(of course, meanwhile Kanavit will come tell you you need SSE3 and how well his prescott scores in Aquamark..)



= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =

 

[TheRod]

For your info, no LGA775 chipsets don't natively support AGP. You must get a PCI-EXPRESS GPU If you want it badly! You must get DDR2 ram too, since DDR is not supported either!

So, if you want to get a pricey system and have low cost/performance ratio, LGA775 is the way to go!

If you want the best performance/ratio, get an Athlon 64 between 2800+ and 3200+ with an MSI K8N Neo Platinum (or a Chaintech VNF3-250 if you don't need all the bell and whistle of the K8N).

I'm sorry, but for gaming Intel can't match AMD in any price range. From the low cost Sempron to the highly priced FX-53, AMD CPU are the best way to go for gaming.

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<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290

 

[Kanavit]

There are currently some LGA775 motherboards that support 8x apg. The P5P800(i865+ICH5) Asus. Intel i915 supports DDRI dual channel and DDR2 and uses LGA 775. Intel i925x supports DDR2 only.

<A HREF="http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38615" target="_new">http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38615</A>

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60,823 Aquamarks <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Kanavit on 08/16/04 07:36 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Mephistopheles]

While S775 is not a great alternative and is somewhat behind in performance, this doesn't mean we can blatantly lie about the things supported and not supported. There are S775 motherboards <A HREF="http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket775/p5p800/overview.htm" target="_new">that support</A> AGP 8x (based still on i865), and there is wide support for DDR1 in i915 - not in 925X, though...

Problem is, however, that at this point DDR2-533 is no advance. It might be technically a little more promising for the future, but right now, it's not worth the money. At all. Same thing with PCI-Express. It's absolutely great and promising, but you won't gain anything from early adoption.

 

[Cybercraig]

An ABIT IS7 and a P4-2.8C or 3.0C would be your socket 478 solution. Great features, great sound, great overclocking options, just great!


Abit IS7 - 2.8C @ 3.5ghz - Mushkin PC4000 (2 X 512) - Sapphire 9800Pro - TT 420 watt Pure Power
Samsung 120gb ATA-100 - Maxtor 40gb ATA - 100
Sony DRU-510A - Yellowtail Merlot

 

[o1die]

Abit makes the as8 socket 775 with agp slot and it uses regular pc3200. DDr2 has no real advantage, just costs more. And agp video cards cost less than the new pci express, and offer similar performance. Via may come out with a board that can use either agp or pci express cards, but their chipsets are generally inferior to Intel.

 

[endyen]

Personal opinion.
The contact between chip and mobo, with the 775 boards, has been reduced by a factor of ten. This makes misses much more likely. Since the contact is also a major heat transfer point, reducing the contact area is not a good idea.