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August 26, 2004 4:32:21 PM

I have a choice of two chips
Which is better performance wise?
Intel Pentium 4 2.52Ghz
or AMD Athlon XP 2800 333 FSB

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August 26, 2004 5:27:47 PM

It depends on what you plan on doing with it as to which one is a better performer. Generally speaking, AMD performs better for gaming and Intel performs better at multimedia tasks.

Personally, with a choice between those two, I would go AMD, simply because it would (likely) be cheaper.

I'm sure if you look hard enough you could find some benchmark scores.

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August 26, 2004 7:44:27 PM

Thanks for the help.
I thinks I'll go with the AMD
I dont any games though.
just music & DVD's etc
August 26, 2004 7:46:44 PM

Then Pentium 4 will outperform that Athlon XP.

Pentium 4 has SSE2 which Athlon XP doesn't.

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August 26, 2004 9:36:18 PM

ok and lets remind the class where sse2 pays off?

thats right, its in video work.

now id liek to hear why you think sse2 will help HIM. he doesnt do any video encoding so most of the bonuses sse2 provides will not give anything.

i will say that HT is a bonus for the p4 over the athlon, but counting hte price difference in that as wlel, that bonus is a wash and both are basically equal. he will enjoy is athlon xp.
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August 26, 2004 9:52:59 PM

Pete why you keep bringing up SSE?It will help under certain circonstance but its not magical!It wont do miracle and your computer wont boot faster ya know

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August 26, 2004 10:32:39 PM

I'll take...................................neither of those choices!

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August 26, 2004 10:34:02 PM

SSE2 can be a lot of help. It will give a 10% edge, if you compare only with SSE2 progs. To get this advantage, go out and buy new software that only supports it. Ignore better software, that may be faster, if it does not support SSE2. In gaming, SSE2 helps with demos and "on the rails", if it is supported. Do not play these games, as they run slower than the demos.
See, I can be as stupid as Petertoy.
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August 27, 2004 2:06:40 AM

That model P4 (P4 2.53ghz / 533fsb) doesnt have Hyperthreading - only the 3.06ghz / 533mhz model and the C Class models (800mhz FSB) have HT. He wants a 'usefull' cpu for more 'desktop' things rather then games - the P4 will have more performance (thanks to more cache and the fsb) while the AMD is close performance wise it falls short (just) for his areas... not that its bad or anything.
August 27, 2004 2:43:56 AM

He wiln't respond. He never does. You tell him he's wrong, then he doesn't respond. If anyone needs to be banned it's petey. He gives bad advice and even after being told what he says is wrong he keeps repeating it too newbies who want REAL advice.

Watch out for the <b><font color=red>bloody</font color=red></b> Fanboys!

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August 27, 2004 2:55:46 AM

Perhaps we should ask Freddi to give him a " moron of the month" award.
August 27, 2004 3:24:53 AM

more like "tool of the month" from the abuse he takes from us making fun of him. But till he starts posting good advice based on REAL benchmarks and REAL info, then i will continue to prove him wrong. (or till he gets banned)

Watch out for the <b><font color=red>bloody</font color=red></b> Fanboys!

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Addicted, finally.
August 27, 2004 3:36:39 AM

The Amd PR numbers were fairly close to the P4b numbers.
You can not say that an Xp2800+ is slower than a P4b @2.53. Well obviously, you did, so show me.
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August 27, 2004 6:35:54 AM

"fairly close" - 2800+ is "fairly close" to 2.53
August 27, 2004 6:45:38 AM

endyen is correct xp is very close in benchmarks to the p4b. Sure you could run a specific benchmark to show one better over the other but all in all a tie.

xp rating smoked the p4a, tied the p4b, and was tramplied by the p4c.

end of story.

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August 27, 2004 10:29:50 AM

In chips 10% is for ever. The xp2800+ is 10% faster than the P4 2.53. End of story.
August 27, 2004 11:09:55 AM

End of thread!

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