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I dont see anybody talked of this yet (no search results).
Xbox 2 processor from IBM to run a monstorous 21G FLOPS. Triple cored powerpc processing up to 6 threads. Forget HT. Each core running at 3.5+ Ghz. Each core having a velocity engine (vector processing as seen in G5s, G4s). Processor core will be fabricated with 65nm process.

<A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/news/2004-04/xbox2_scheme_bg.gif&1=1" target="_new">Heres</A> the block diagram. And <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mmedia/display/20040627030133.html" target="_new">heres</A> the article. theres a lot more in the article, abt the graphics and memory.

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Seems like overkill to me.

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Reply to Snorkius

All this for playing games? What about research?

I guess we're back to Rome's old "bread and circus" policy after all. Don't let them think!

Reply to Mephistopheles

It wont change anything when the games suck.

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Reply to Snorkius

that's exactly what I said, when another Xbox2 thread was started sometime ago.

Way overkill!

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Reply to Ned_Flanders

Custom security 'features' built directly into the silicon and lack of HD will make all that power even more useless.

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Reply to Snorkius

Xbox games dont suck.

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Reply to coylter

I can't think of very many exclusivly Xbox games that are really good, something I can't say for the PC and PS2.

And anyway, my point is that awesome hardware is moot if the games are not there to match it. Between the PS3 and Xbox 2 I'd go for the PS3, regardless of who has what under the hood, simply because I know there'll be more/better games for it.

(I'd buy a PC, but that's beside the point.)

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Reply to Snorkius

I think it's all in what kinds of games you play. I highly enjoy the Project Gotham games for Xbox. But then again, I enjoy Tales of Symphonia for Gamecube (as well as lots of fun party games like double dash, super smash, and mario party for when kids are over). The next generation is probably going to be like the current one -- to be really satisfied with gaming choices all you need is 1 PS2, 1 Xbox, 1 GC, and 1 PC :)

The only reason I have 1 GC and 1 PC right now is I picked up the GC and 5 games in just barely not new condition for 80 bucks, and the PC...well, I wouldn't be on this forum if I didn't enjoy playing around with a computer, would I?

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Reply to wolverinero79

"lack of HD will make all that power even more useless."

Where is there a lack of hard drive? The diagram has a hard drive in it (there is a note about it being possibly removeable?).

I'm just your average habitual smiler =D

Reply to wolverinero79

From what I have been told by a M$ rep, M$ loses about 150bux on each and every box sold, they make up that lost revenue on the sale of games. But with such a machine like xnext, it seems to me that with all that top of the line hardware under the hood M$ stands to lose A LOT more per unit on xnext. I find it hard to believe that they would be putting all this bleeding edge hardware into their next machine. How are they going to be able to build these and not charge at least $800 per unit?

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Reply to bosshoss

It's bleeding edge now... When is it due to be launched? It won't be bleeding-edge if it gets launched in 2006, for instance...

Also, it never hurts to be suspicious of paper tigers.

Reply to Mephistopheles

"Rumours are spreading that the next Xbox will be unveiled by Bill Gates on January 5, 2005, at the Consumer Electronic Show (CES) in Las Vegas. This would mean that Microsoft would be releasing the Xbox 2 before either Sony or Nintendo release their consoles, which are both due for release later in 2005."

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Reply to priyajeet

you oculd ask sony the same thing. how are they going to not loose a lot more money per console wiht the ps3 and still fight the price war? microsoft has a large war chest, gates could swing any damage they took if it ment being on top.

heck i wouldnt put it past sony or microsoft to jump out and lauch at $250 instead of the normal 300. this is sony's big test, its never relaly been challenged since it took off, nintendo never had much and sega was dieing when sony came along. evne if sony outsales ms again, if its only by a small margin, its a victory for ms, it shows sony isnt unbeatable for consoles lol. nintendo....they are liek stuck in the middle... i can see them closing shop eventaully on consoles, developing software only for one of the other two, and continuing on in the handheld wars lol.

oh and ive ehard the lame argument that there are no good games on xbox, thats absurd and everyone knows it. lets see, ninja gaiden, kotor, halo, fable, splinter cell... just to name a few. xbox has good games, maybe nto the library sony has, but of course maybe tahts becuase sony has been aorund for many more years lol and they have a monoply on the rpg craze in japan, from final fantasy to breath of fire.

Reply to trooper11

But you'd have to be an idiot to argue that the Xbox has <i>better/more</i> games than the other consoles/PC. While the opposite can be said for the Playstaion <i>and</i> the PC. (I don't know anything about Nintendo.)

If given a voucher for the Xbox2/PS3 right now, I'd choose the PS3 no question. Sony is no push-over, and regardless of the hardware, the games are sure to be better and more numerous.

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Reply to Snorkius

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It's bleeding edge now... When is it due to be launched? It won't be bleeding-edge if it gets launched in 2006, for instance...



And on top of that, these boxes are built to last a couple of years at least? It's not like with a PC that you can upgrade components when your hardware starts to get obsolete for the latest games. These boxes must be able to play the latest games for a couple of years at least. Given the intended product lifecycle it doesn't look like overkill to me at all.


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i think your being pretty foolish to say that the xbox doesnt have any games taht are better then other games. are there more xbox games then ps2 games? no way, not even close. Are there games on the xbox that are ebtter then games on the ps2? yes their are. You cant tlel me thier arent, its a subjective question. So how does one answer it? You go by slaes and how the market fared. Well if oyu look at kotor for example, it recieved many many accolades including game of the year, that i can say wa sa better game then anyhting ps2 or nintendo had for that period of time. i dont knwo why wyou want to beat donw the xbox so much, its just a sgood as a ps2 imo. if i had to choose between them, it would be a toss up for me, i have favorites on both systems. ps2 has the market on rpgs, and i like rpgs, but on xbox there are fps and such that i like and so i could lean to that as well.

the point here is that you cant come out and say xbox sucks and it doesnt have any games that are as good or better then ps2 games, no one person can say that. You may nto like any of the big sellers on xbox, but if they are big sellers, then they must be quality games, unless you just think of all xbox users as idiots.... if thats the case, you lose alot of credibility.

at this point, if i had to choose between the ps2 or xbox, id flip a coin lol, now ps3 versus xbox 2, um unless youve gotten sneek peaks at both, there is nothing to push me oen way or another. i dont care who made the xbox, im nto going to let some kind of brand hate or brand loyalty stop me form enjoying a system if it proves itself.

Reply to trooper11

WTF, thats gonna cost an outrageous amount of money.

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