A64 4000+ and FX-55! (both 130nm)

[Mephistopheles]

<A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20040909172101.html" target="_new">Here,</A> but 4000+ is still 2.4Ghz. It takes the exact same specs the FX-53 had. It's kind of ridiculous that every new processor we get actually costs 800+ or something, in EE or FX category, before it falls to the more "mortal" prices...

But hey, the good news is FX-55, with whatever scary price it will have, will be a <i>2.6Ghz A64!</i>

 

[ksoth]

Wicked. I sure would like to be able to afford a top-of-the-line system one day, but I just don't think it's worth it.

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[Mephistopheles]

Agreed.

And I don't think it's you. No AMD or Intel 32-bit processors (except Opterons or MP Xeons) should cost over US$500 or so. The prices that exist now in the market are senseless. Heck, I think only maybe Montecitos or dual-core Opterons (MPs) should be allowed to go above US$1000 at all! (server, heavy workstation, heavy computing niches)

Personally, I have a hard time even to go too much above a US$250 processor. That's because I'm not from the US, and the import taxes double all prices... and that's added to the bad currency exchange rates... :frown:

 

[ksoth]

God, I don't think I've spent more than $100 on a chip any time soon. I bought a Duron 700 when it came out, which MIGHT have been around $100 I think, and my last purchase was a $75 XP 2500+. My next chip will probably be another sub-$100 chip just to make my livingroom computer a bit faster than the TBird 1333 I have in order to play Half-Life 2 on it. It will probably be a 266 mHz bus Barton 2600+ or something, as my motherboard only supports 266 mHz max bus speed, which goes for about $75. I'll probably spend about $200 on a GeForce 6600 GT though.

The way I see it, is that I won't notice the differnece really between the $75 chip and the $200 chip, considering I usually only play games and in most cases it's the video card holding the system back.

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[endyen]

That 4000+ is a dissapointment. The 3200+ can oc to 2.5, and with a fsb over 225, it will easily outperform the 4000+. Oh well, If Intel can get a scotty to 4 gigs, they get the crown back. Personnally I cant see calling that chip a 3750+, but it's all a numbers game.

 

[trooper11]

prescott to 4ghz lol, taht will get the crown back? where do you draw that from?

anyway, i dont agree with the 4000+ numbering either, but i guess until they push 90nm out, they had to have somehting sitting there. amd hasnt relaly had to release higher speed bins, intel has been quiet, nothing has been released to change where amd excels, so there is no need for a 4000+ or even fx 55 at this point. but cant let the market get stagnet, have to kepe it exciting with new high end chips. but there is a good side ot this. wiht those rleases, that 3200+ will be cheaper, so will all of the s939 chips.

its plain to see that amd had headroom to spare, pushing 2.6 on 130nm, perhaps SS is thereason or maybe thats before its addition. once 90nm takes off, amd might retweak its numbering scheme. possibly offering a new 4000+ model, 2.6ghz but with only 512 cache like the rest of the s939, maybe let the fx 55 stay on as 2.6 and 1mb cache, then just let it die with fx 57 and 2.8 on 90 nm

 

[Kanavit]

is AMD the new Intel?

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[Ned_Flanders]

I hope so. But without the crap / delayed products. Bad scaling, thermal leakage and what ever Intel bashings stuff you want to add :lol:

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[tulatin]

but what is the differents between the fx and ee??

I like to build up one of my computer.

 

[Mephistopheles]

The <i>new</i> Intel?

What is the point of <i>that</i> statement?

 

[phial]

so does the 3800+ only have 512kb of L2 cache? thats kinda ghey

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[endyen]

but what is the differents between the fx and ee??

About $240 at newegg. The cheaper FX is better at games, as well.
It is also nice that the socket 939 boards will support faster FX chips, while 478 probably will not.

 

[Kanavit]

AMD is releasing new products on time, something that we are accustomed to seeing with Intel. Have the sides changed? <A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/27/35FEamd_1.html?s=feature" target="_new">AMD the new Intel?</A>


Now, AMD is outselling Intel too!

<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...tc_cmp/46802761" target="_new">Link</A>

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[endyen]

I know what you are saying, and to Amd, it is a great compliment. Truth is, they are bothe just companies. They bothe have good periods, and bad periods. I want bothe of them to have lots of good periods, that way we get the best.

 

[Mephistopheles]

OMG, kanavit just switched sides...

he <i>was</i> a senseless Intel fanboy...

he is <i>now</i> a senseless AMD fanboy.

Incredible. Look, he changed his config again. I think he's either lying in his sig or he indeed is the richest s.o.a.b. who doesn't know what to do with his money I've ever seen!!!

 

[raretech]

You sure they're just companies? Here's the begining of that article he linked to...

<i>You just gotta love a Cinderella story. Advanced Micro Devices is the hardscrabble kid who came to Silicon Valley with a dollar and a pack of Luckies and ended up in a building with its name on top. AMD?s rapid rise from startup to $5 billion semiconductor powerhouse is, as Humphrey Bogart?s English teacher once said, the stuff of which dreams are made.</i>

This is how sports writers write about athletes. I now blame the media for fanboyism. And for a whole bunch of other things not related to technology.

<i>Dual Opteron 248s, 5900nu, 4gig ram, dual 36gb raptor, 80gb hd, 550w Enermax, Suse64 9.1, and a bunch of other crap.</i>

 

[coylter]

AMD can stand their ground and intel too. We are now up for some mad competition...the next few years are going to be interesting.

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[phial]

must be doing it on purpose.

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[darko21]

OK kanavit what's up? what is with the sig did you really buy amd? or did you best friend hack your thg account. I really did not see you comming over to the dark side so soon if ever.

If I glanced at a spilt box of tooth picks on the floor, could I tell you how many are in the pile. Not a chance, But then again I don't have to buy my underware at Kmart.

 

[endyen]

It's all your fault you know. He used to be a perfectly abusable intel fanboy. You had to go on telling him the A64s were better for gaming. It's not all bad though. We still have the petertoy, if we can find him.

 

[darko21]

My fault . Well I'm not so sure about that. whatever so long as people see things for what they are. I guess petertoy is next on my list, wish me luck

If I glanced at a spilt box of tooth picks on the floor, could I tell you how many are in the pile. Not a chance, But then again I don't have to buy my underware at Kmart.

 

[endyen]

Luck.

 

[darko21]

Ok I accept. This just might be fun.

If I glanced at a spilt box of tooth picks on the floor, could I tell you how many are in the pile. Not a chance, But then again I don't have to buy my underware at Kmart.

 

[Worf101]

Truer words were never spoken. They're both just companies. They'll have their ups and downs. It's just that some of us love the underdog and hate the favorite as a matter of course.

Da Worfster

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Rooting for the underdog (or even rooting for the big guy, for that matter), in whatever form, is biasing. It is not justified to support a company just because it's small, even if it might "feel" good. It is a very primitive emotional and passionate reaction that many people cannot avoid... And most are not aware of it. Even those who are don't do anything to avoid it, too...

Heck, why doesn't anyone root for Cyrix?