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September 14, 2004 6:45:40 AM

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September 14, 2004 2:56:29 PM

I'm sure heads are rolling at Intel today. Their CEO is already pissed about the numerous rollout miscues. So much so that he publically read the company the "riot act" a few months ago. This is not gonna help morale over there.

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September 14, 2004 2:56:37 PM

Thats only for the week ending Aug 21st. More <A HREF="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/13/2241256&tid..." target="_new">here</A>. Intel still leads and has overall market share.

"For the week ending August 21st AMD managed to capture 54% market share among new desktops sold. Intel's share during the week was 45%. While Intel leads the U.S. CPU market with 82.7% market share, folks from AMD are proud to announce this is the second week this year - they also outsold Intel on the desktop market one time in April 2004."

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September 14, 2004 3:02:24 PM

retail desktop market share. Intel still leads overall market share by 82%. However, AMD has come a long way since the K6 processor. This is only the beginning. Soon more Opterons servers will be made, AMD will increase server market share size, and with the introduction of Dual cores, I foresee only positive growth from this, especially when Microsoft releases Windows xp 64-bit edition officially.

Only Laptop market share, and Dell selling AMD systems, are AMD's last obstacle. Intel owns majority of Laptop sales. Dell is the last large computer manufacturer to exclude AMD processors from their line-up.

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September 14, 2004 3:19:10 PM

"The numbers only reflect desktop computers sold to customers via retail outlets: the figures do not indicate desktop sales to corporate customers, notebook computers as well as servers or workstations."

Wow and I wasted my time looking for that too...

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September 14, 2004 3:41:30 PM

or you could have clicked the clicky above and found the same and saved time :tongue:

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September 14, 2004 5:18:37 PM

Wow. I sell computers and hm, it is true that 50/50 sales are split between amd and intel this end of summer.

BTW: the sales of august going into first week in september for computer sales is a massive spike in the retail industry. the only real reason people buy a new computer for their family is for their whining little skank annoying children who NEED a faster comp for school. So, that being said, if AMD pushed out ahead of intel during this time period, it crushed intel by a landslide for the first time that I have been reading.
Notebook sales are still in INtels favor as there does not exist a centrino version for AMD. that being said, really, there isnt a viable option for a serious business or college user besides centrino. You need the huge battery life and small/lightweightness of the centrino vs an oven with a screen.

If amd makes a centrino type, it could ruin intel. Remember, intel losing a % of sales destroys current expected sales volume, people are counting on this corporately and investment wise, amd has nothing to lose not gaining any ground as much as intel does in losing some at all.

They should have not lied about the tualatin and released better/cooler procs such as them is my odd viewpoint about one of the countless underlying factors to stagnation.


I should also note and add:
The major reason for people buying AMD is a damning one. Every salesman that gets the request for:
I WANT A PENTIUM FOUR, WHERE ARE THOSE?
and then the annoying customer finds out that they are above fiddy-cents then asks: GEE THATS A BIT! THATS JUST FOR THE TOWER THING!?? WHAT ABOUT A PACKAGE DEAL GIMEE SOMETHING WITH IT!!
and im like, um. No. you dont get anything else. So i sell them an athlonXP system with 512 ram and 160 gig hd.
Athlon uses more nvidia on board chips, intel uses random intel chips. It is also easier to sell the amd's with on board video on account of the fact that its a name brand, decent company versus some whatever from intel's labs (regardless of actual performance differences)

a64's are hard to sell at first glance. After talking about them, a salesman who is good will discuss how long into the future do they expect to use the machine. When people say, I hope it lasts at least 3 years, I say, well the new OS wont work with intel's 520 or 540 chip. and then they buy the a64's. I run the number one computer/camera's sales deptarment out of 680 Circuit city stores, and we always clean out of a64's before the 520's by a long shot. Xp's come in fast and go out just as fast, Celeron sales are diminishing, who the hell wants a chip from the 90's?
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by el_jefe_77 on 09/14/04 01:50 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
September 14, 2004 7:38:40 PM

ive seen similar trend in my computer sales. right now its about 65/35 amd/intel, mostly becuase i get alot of gamers buying my systems, so that will undoubtedly favor amd.
September 14, 2004 7:59:25 PM

Just out of curiousity, where do those numbers come from?

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September 14, 2004 9:54:22 PM

Trooper rhymes with pooper my guess is as good as yours.

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September 14, 2004 11:11:30 PM

another outselling article. Suprisingly articles are popping up one after the other !

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18445" target="_new">AMD Opteron outsold Intel Itanium by 10X</A>

No gaurantees that figures are correct.

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September 15, 2004 12:00:29 AM

I think the C3 outsold itanium this year... or should I say, is there a modern chip from a non-intel vendor that didn't outsell Itanium this year?

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September 15, 2004 12:13:39 AM

Id tell you, AMD is gobbling up that big chunk of market share from Intel and it wont be long for them to take over.

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September 15, 2004 2:34:20 AM

AMD does make something like the "Centrino type", the Athlon XP is similar to the Pentium-M. All they really need to do is come up with a low-voltage A64 to break into that market.

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September 15, 2004 2:55:20 AM

As far as chips go, the 35 watt xp-m 2400+ could go head to head against any of the PM chips. Just try to find a laptop maker that would go up against the big Intel machine though.
September 15, 2004 3:02:12 AM

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another outselling article. Suprisingly articles are popping up one after the other !

AMD Opteron outsold Intel Itanium by 10X

lol, that's like saying Ford outselling ferraris. Itanium is a high end workstation platform, and it wasn't targeted for mainstream or desktop level, while almost anyone can go out and buy an Opteron server. who ever wrote that article should have known this. at any rate, Intel has enough money and resource to weather the storm. They can afford to take a break. anyways, it would be 20x if Dell used opteron servers.

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September 15, 2004 3:11:13 AM

Maybe he was using a little sarcasm. I dont mean to offend. You have had the Amd fanboys on your case for a long time. Now that you have actually tried Amd, the Intel fanboys get in your face. Try to remember, it's not about sides, it's about value/performance. Enjoy your system, and dont let us jealous peons rain on your parade.
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September 15, 2004 3:47:00 AM

I thought the M's were putting out like 17W? Maybe that was the slow ULV ones...

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September 15, 2004 4:03:38 AM

u r right, i was being sarcastic there, abt the articles popping up issue.

<A HREF="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2004/..." target="_new">Heres</A> another poppup.

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September 15, 2004 5:03:49 AM

Eh MS is such a bullshit slimey business. It's stalling for Intel to make the 64 bit processor.
September 15, 2004 2:51:18 PM

Oh ya forgot that testing software is for stupids... stupid MS.

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September 15, 2004 3:38:25 PM

So you think that Microsoft isn't really having just design/coding problems? So the fact that they dropped the database file system from Longhorn to be able to make their deadline isn't a good indicator that this isn't an Intel strongarm tactic and is actually just poor Microsoft execution? Hmm...

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September 15, 2004 6:53:01 PM

atleast they are trying to meet their deadline, dropping WinFS will get longhorn out a bit earlier than it would had they implemented it. Unlike some bitch ass firms(valve), who create virtual deadlines.

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September 15, 2004 7:23:01 PM

Yeah, but with HL2 (assumed what you're hinting at), you wouldn't want any of that dropped to make the deadline, right? "So...we'll release multiplayer in a patch..."

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September 15, 2004 7:44:45 PM

oh yeah definitely, i ll pick up the crowbar if they do that !

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September 15, 2004 11:03:49 PM

doom 3 and hl 2 were overhyped and some pretty lofty goals made that never panned out, so it created a problem from both vavle and id. unfortunately it cost them alot of fafn fare becuase today, the games dont look or are as 'revolutionary' as they would have been if they had been reelased up to a year earlier.

now microsoft, on the other hand, has no one to compete against that it would make a differnce if they release ont ime or not, and they have a track record of delays. dropping winfs on longhorn is mistake imo, why odnt they just gut it and call it win xp se and then release the true longhorn when it is really ready lol.

i know i wont be paying for longhorn if its going to be stripped down. as far as xp 64bit goes, its a similar thing. i highly doubt the delays are purely coding driven, meaning that the transition is too difficult, that argument just doenst cut it. i really dont know what the real reason for the delay is, and id odubt anyone outside of microsoft does either.
September 15, 2004 11:34:41 PM

Microsoft has one large competitor - time.

It's been awhile since their last big OS upgrade (namely Win XP). By Microsoft's past timelines, they should have had a new consumer OS out by Christmas of this year. If they drop WINFS they can make 2006 (maybe 2005), otherwise they are looking at 2007 or (more likely) 2008. Even though XP is a great OS, forcing consumers to a new environment to generate more revenue is what MS is best at!

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September 16, 2004 2:25:50 PM

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Itanium is a high end workstation platform, and it wasn't targeted for mainstream or desktop level

err in whos wet dreams? as far as i know Itanium is High end server platform only, mostly running datacenter server, lol high end workstation, who the hell can afford $10,000 USD per Dual CPU workstation for their goofy ass Cad designers eheh.
September 16, 2004 2:50:24 PM

thats why i say just release an updated version of windows xp, which is waht sp2 has been all about. its a huge update for xp, adding many features and fine tuning. granted it doesnt gain ms revenue, but ti gives them more time for longhorn. they will however, get revenue on xp 64bit, so that should hold them till longhorn. i would rather see them wait till winfs was done, otherwise, there isnt much going for longhorn except avalon and a couple other cosmetic changes.

whats evne worse is if they release winfs as part of a service pack, i can just see the update problems now, you thought the problems wiht the sp2 update on xp was bad... or they will just try to suck more money out of the consumer and force every to pay to get it.
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