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The humor of company benchmarks ("Marketing Lies")

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September 14, 2004 5:34:51 PM

I found this kind of funny (and feel free to find some Intel glaring errors).

I was checking out the Sempron benchmarks (especially the configuration) on AMD's website and found this:

Celeron:
Video Card
Graphics Adapter: Intel® 82865G Graphics Controller
Memory Size (MB) and Type: 16MB

Sempron 2800+:
Video Card
Graphics Adapter: Onboard UMA Geforce4 MX Integrated GPU
Memory Size (MB) and Type: 64MB

Sempron 3100+:
Video Card
Graphics Adapter: Radeon 9600
Memory Size (MB) and Type: 128M DDR

Anyone else find that funny? Besides the fact that the different video cards make the systems somewhat uncomparable performance wise, when doing tests for really the value chip line, it's interesting that the 3100+ system is paired with an additional video card cost.

Ok, time to find Intel's lies...

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September 14, 2004 6:39:06 PM

That is a blatant lie. It's ridiculous.

But then again, Apple always says they're the ones with the fastest computers!

Intel also put some benchmarks up on EM64T and it compares xeons with it disabled and 4GB system memory to xeons with it enabled and 8GB system memory...
September 14, 2004 6:47:14 PM

I don't think it is completely unfair to make a comparison between a Sempron with onboard nVidia graphics and a Celeron with onboard Intel graphics, simply because those are the two platforms that people with those chips will likely have. I think it is completeley fair to compare entire platforms that are similar in cost and reflect real-world situations that customers will have to choose from.

I guess it might have been more fair to include ATI's integrated graphics chipset for the Celeron though. But, that's marketing for you.

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September 14, 2004 9:40:35 PM

I don't think that's what they were referring to. What was being referred to is the fact that the Sempron 3100+ system has a Radeon 9600 video card in it, rather than onboard graphics like the other two systems.

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September 14, 2004 11:51:56 PM

a 9600 with 8 times the video memory ^_^

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September 15, 2004 12:21:08 AM

Its like each subject is its own class. I think even a complete moron will figure that out.

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September 15, 2004 2:03:49 AM

A certain forum member says no, points to validation benchmarks based on unmatched systems to prove the XP rating system has always scalled quantitatively rather than being based on opinion.

OF COURSE AMD matches the platform to the processor to get exactly the numbers they're looking for, that doesn't mean the processors underperform, it's just that they're trying to proove the numbers scale properly. We've already seen enough accurate comparisons to know AMD makes great processors, this is just marketing.

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September 15, 2004 2:19:15 AM

It is indeed just marketing, and in, a wierd and convoluted way, it's nice to see Amd doing some for a change.
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September 15, 2004 2:53:34 AM

I liked the Bullet Train ad. Sure it was over the top, but that's what gets people's attention! Too bad I've only ever seen it once.

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September 17, 2004 11:18:48 AM

I have never seen it :-(

Downloadable?


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September 17, 2004 5:41:07 PM

When I said I've only seen it once, I meant I'd only seen it one time as advertising, I did download it a couple years later so I know someone has it.

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September 17, 2004 6:25:50 PM

What I find funny is how all manufacturers scale their bar graphs to show their products better, like:

Intel: ----------------- 100%
AMD: -------------------------------------104%

Wow, looks twice as fast!!!!!

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September 17, 2004 6:31:03 PM

That's true too. Just keep zooming in until it looks incredible!

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September 17, 2004 8:33:47 PM

That's even an automatic function of Excel! I just did some graphs for a hard drive review, one had like 101MB/s peak output, the other had like 104MB/s, Excel started the graph at like 70 and went to like 110. Because this is for a review, I set the starting point at 0 so it would show a realistic comparison.

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September 18, 2004 12:41:29 AM

Dont forget to post a link. I look forward to seeing your reviews.
September 18, 2004 5:13:58 PM

Yeah, well, it's rewarding to pay attention to your axes...

After all, you could put two scores of like 15050 and 15075 in a graph from 15000 to 15100, and one would look 50% faster, while in fact it's more like 0.17% faster... :smile:
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