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AMD starts to ship 90nm mobile CPUs!

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September 17, 2004 9:12:22 PM

Looks like AMD has started to ship out 90nm mobile CPU! Have look at this news article:


<A HREF="http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_7595~8944..." target="_new">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_7595~8944...;/A>

Seems like soon enough desktop 90nm will be out :) 
September 17, 2004 9:30:46 PM

oh yeah!

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September 18, 2004 12:03:33 AM

LOL! Anyway, I saw that too...wonder how much they can perfect the process by the time I'm scheduled to upgrade in Q2.

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September 18, 2004 12:29:14 AM

Cocktails!

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September 18, 2004 4:36:15 AM

I wonder what socket it will work in?

I hope 754 :)  I know people want it to be the big 939 but really this just jacks the price up.
September 18, 2004 5:12:04 AM

Doesnt Intel has heat problem with their 90nm chips? Well, AMD doing a mobile 90nm is a big slap in Intel's face, if it is the case.

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September 18, 2004 5:19:31 AM

the pentium-m is 90nm.

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September 18, 2004 5:21:57 AM

What about the Prescott?

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September 18, 2004 5:33:28 AM

Looks like 2 socket 754, and 1 939 chip. Everyone should be happy.
As others have said before, AMD is probably going to have to add a few more layers before these chips ram well.
September 18, 2004 6:35:28 AM

Wow, good find! :smile:
September 18, 2004 8:06:33 AM

S939 3000+ is out? This seems to be the end of S754 then!
September 18, 2004 12:17:00 PM

*Drools*

THAT's my next chip! :lol: 

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September 18, 2004 12:50:20 PM

No word on sse3...
intresting you can write it SS3E
or SS33.

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September 18, 2004 1:48:36 PM

the majority of SSE3 commands are to do with hyperthreading, there's only 3 or something that could be any use to AMD.

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September 18, 2004 3:15:22 PM

Will these chips in their mobile version be a bit slower than desktop versions? HOw does it all work? Besides for nice cool and quiet operation (something I want/need), will it need to be OC'd in order to perform the same speed as a non-mobile chip? That might defeat the purpose then for cold running, silent attempts
September 18, 2004 3:28:09 PM

Now is the question : Haw do they overclock ?

This will be my next baby !


Looks like intel spent more on bribing reviewers to cover up it aint that great than they did in R&D.
Tom also has money from intel.
September 18, 2004 5:11:25 PM

Why don't we get any reviews? Aren't these processors supposed to be 5% faster clock for clock and also cooler? Did AMD manage both?

Also, as for Intel having heat problems, it's not all 90nm processors from Intel. It's prescott alone. Dothan is doing quite well; heck, even Montecito doesn't seem to be surprisingly hot.
September 18, 2004 6:18:14 PM

""the majority of SSE3 commands are to do with hyperthreading, there's only 3 or something that could be any use to AMD.""

You have it backwards. I belive it's somthing like 2 out of 11 instructions are hyperthreading related. anyway we expected a64 @ 90nm to support sse3 except the 2 or so hyperthreading commands and I have seen no evidence 90nm will support sse3 at all at least its not marketed as sse3 compatible from what I have seen.

Maybe 90nm suports the majority of sse3 commands but amd cannot call it sse3 cause it's not fully sse3 capable due to hyperthreading, or maybe sse3 is not present at all. I guess we need a review to figure it out.


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September 18, 2004 6:28:33 PM

There is nothing wrong with Intel's 90nm process...there is something wrong with Prescott, however. A Prescott on 130nm would be bloody hot.

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September 18, 2004 7:31:32 PM

Yeah ok some guy writes it will support sse3 minus the hyperthread commands. AMDs web site makes no mention of sse3 you can search see2 and find stuff, but nothing on sse3.

Plus the stores that offer the new 90nm cpu's say things like this

""3DNow!™ Professional Technology + SSE2 Instructions
With the addition of SSE2 instructions to existing 3DNow!™ Professional technology, the AMD Athlon 64 FX processor is compatible with the largest installed base of multimedia-enhanced software.
Software specifically tuned for this suite of instructions means smooth, rich, lifelike images, precise digital audio and an enriched Web experience.""

If it has sse3 or most of sse3 why not mention that?

we will know nothing until we see a review. I am hoping 90nm does or will support sse3 minus the hyperthread part but there is little to say it does right now. maybe it's a legeal marketing thing because it's not fully sse3 capable who knows.


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September 18, 2004 7:47:05 PM

will the mobile version be slower and to what degree if they are slower than the desktop version?

wouldnt want to get a 5% faster chip only to have it run 10% slower than the desktop eh?
although, for the price, um, its sick low and I'm into ultra cool and quiet/ cheap systems.
no 3500 939 for me, blech.
September 18, 2004 8:15:18 PM

Sounds like you plan a mobile cpu in a desktop. AMD originally said there would be a 5% improvment or so in preformance going to 90nm. SSE3 was part of that 5% gain. The jury is out on weather sse3 has been implemented at 90nm yet.

I am not sure if amd will adjust the rating formula to take into account the 5% gain (if it is even there). What I mean is maybe amd might take a newcastle with 512kb cache @ 1.8 giz on 130 nm with sse2 ='s 2800+ exact same cpu on 90nm with sse3 and few other things might get a rating of 2900+ or 3000+ who knows.

Notebook cpu and desktops shouls operate the same in the same enviorment most amd notebooks use 333 fsb and desktops use 400 fsb so take the mobile up the fsb to 400 lower the multi to = same Mhz and should preform the same as a desktop at 1.8 giz. One advantage with mobile is it might overclock better or run on less power and cooler.

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September 18, 2004 8:50:41 PM

Well you better get the right mobo with that chip. s939 mobo will not work with s754 chip and vice versa.

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September 19, 2004 1:29:33 AM

Quote:
You have it backwards. I belive it's somthing like 2 out of 11 instructions are hyperthreading related


OOOOoooopS!

lol, sorry guys.

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September 19, 2004 5:07:37 AM

yeah I know, gota make sure all works together :) 

I wonder where the 754 version chip is? id like to see that one. then it could be used in a cheaper setup.
September 19, 2004 8:48:00 PM

Should be able to fine them on pricewatch.com They make excellent workstations/servers even though its gamming potentional is on par with s939 chips.

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September 20, 2004 2:46:21 AM

What is it called? I wouldnt know what to call it to look it up. WOuld be nice if it was like a64-M or something like that.
September 20, 2004 3:26:12 PM

On www.go-l.com, select computers then select workstations. There you will find Opteron, Zeon, and Zeon MP solutions. You will fine either dual CPU rigs or even quad CPU rigs. May wanna call them for a quote or two for there is nothing stock about these rigs.

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September 20, 2004 10:52:46 PM

page didnt come up for me...

looking around at Pricewatch, no dice yet.
September 21, 2004 5:19:17 PM

Has anyone noticed that only Monarch Computers has this chip for sale?

wtf??? I called today to see if they have no interest financing on a new system, which they dont do online and well, the guy laughed when I asked about the 90nm chip and said, "Yeah, no one else has them." but he laughed oddly...
Like, really odd sorta hiding something laugh, holding back, you know?

Someone else out there has to have one for a ghetto guy like me.
September 21, 2004 5:42:45 PM

just wait and see what ahppens tomororw, monarch is suppose to have them by then.
September 22, 2004 5:30:04 AM

anyone besides me find it odd that only one retail store in georgia has this chip?

I mean, I live in NYCity. One would think some store here out of 13 million people possibly running/owning one would have one of these chips...

Kinda peculiar
September 22, 2004 6:55:32 AM

well monarch isnt just some retail store, they do have close ties with amd on luanching new products and ive sene them being the first to have alot of amd related stuff recently, its not really suprising to me. i bet newegg wont be far behind.
September 22, 2004 8:34:54 AM

Just to let you guys know someone at toms is getting a 90nm 939 3500.

It's me I'm so stoked. I hope the stinker likes water.

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September 22, 2004 2:22:52 PM

I hope you have an accurate thermal test setup.... we need someone to see whats up with the chip
September 22, 2004 7:03:59 PM

and lets hope another site like anandtech is getting them as well
September 22, 2004 10:12:17 PM

<i>anyone besides me find it odd that only one retail store in georgia has this chip?</i>

Monarch is an AMD launch partner. When I bought my Opteron 248s, I had to go through Monarch if I wanted a good price. They and one other place I forget off hand had it, and that was it. It was like that for a short time after the chip release.

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September 23, 2004 2:08:42 AM

Wow, ok, so thats the deal eh?
Good to know if I ever want a rock solid price.
Although, the sales people are a bit translucently shadey over the phone. They need to hang around camera shops on 42nd street more.
But still, they might be a good company.
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