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September 14, 2004 10:19:16 AM

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I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in my
2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
larger house with three floors.

Assuming that the single base station won't be sufficient
to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
(which I would presume is very likely), can someone tell
me what my options are for extending the range of my
network? What hardware do I need to purchase?

Thanks!
Paul
September 14, 2004 11:56:55 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500,
or MN-700 #2
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500,
or MN-700 #3 (if available)

Make sure all MN-100s & MN-500s are running the latest firmware 1.11.017

Make sure all MN-700s are running the latest firmware 2.01.02.0590

Now lets look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700:

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
router mode
LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
some SSID (if wireless)
some WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 6 (if wireless)

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #2
bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP range
same SSID (if wireless)
same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 1 (if wireless)

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)
bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP range
same SSID (if wireless)
same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 11 (if wireless)


If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (if using the MN-700) the
same for all base stations, people will be able to move between
locations and get a connection.

If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless routers you will
have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch between wireless
networks.

You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base stations to
prevent interference.

Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between them as 1, 6,
& 11 do.

Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping channels.

There are more combinations if you only need two channels.

Paul wrote:

> I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in my
> 2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
> larger house with three floors.
>
> Assuming that the single base station won't be sufficient
> to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
> (which I would presume is very likely), can someone tell
> me what my options are for extending the range of my
> network? What hardware do I need to purchase?
>
> Thanks!
> Paul
September 14, 2004 12:33:04 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Joker-

Thanks for the reply! This may be a stupid question, but
my new house is apparently "wired" with ethernet ports in
various rooms. Would I follow a similar setup? Could I
just plug another MN-500 box into the wall?

Thanks!

Paul


>-----Original Message-----
>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700
#1
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of
MN-100, MN-500,
>or MN-700 #2
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of
MN-100, MN-500,
>or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>
>Make sure all MN-100s & MN-500s are running the latest
firmware 1.11.017
>
>Make sure all MN-700s are running the latest firmware
2.01.02.0590
>
>Now lets look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-
700:
>
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
>router mode
>LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
>some SSID (if wireless)
>some WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>channel 6 (if wireless)
>
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #2
>bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP
range
>same SSID (if wireless)
>same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>channel 1 (if wireless)
>
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP
range
>same SSID (if wireless)
>same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>channel 11 (if wireless)
>
>
>If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (if using the
MN-700) the
>same for all base stations, people will be able to move
between
>locations and get a connection.
>
>If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless
routers you will
>have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch
between wireless
>networks.
>
>You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base
stations to
>prevent interference.
>
>Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between
them as 1, 6,
>& 11 do.
>
>Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping
channels.
>
>There are more combinations if you only need two channels.
>
>Paul wrote:
>
>> I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in
my
>> 2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
>> larger house with three floors.
>>
>> Assuming that the single base station won't be
sufficient
>> to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
>> (which I would presume is very likely), can someone
tell
>> me what my options are for extending the range of my
>> network? What hardware do I need to purchase?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Paul
>
>.
>
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Anonymous
September 14, 2004 6:42:35 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Paul,

Same problem here with my MN-700. I get an excellent
signal in half of the house...the other half none at all.
My house is one story and about 80 feet long. I tried a D-
link signal extender, but had compatibility issues and
sent it back. I was actually thinking about sending my
msft stuff back for the money back guarantee and buying
Netgear. Any ideas?

Rick
>-----Original Message-----
>I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in my
>2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
>larger house with three floors.
>
>Assuming that the single base station won't be sufficient
>to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
>(which I would presume is very likely), can someone tell
>me what my options are for extending the range of my
>network? What hardware do I need to purchase?
>
>Thanks!
>Paul
>.
>
September 14, 2004 7:04:59 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

So long as that port is connected to the other MN-500.

Paul wrote:

> Joker-
>
> Thanks for the reply! This may be a stupid question, but
> my new house is apparently "wired" with ethernet ports in
> various rooms. Would I follow a similar setup? Could I
> just plug another MN-500 box into the wall?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700
>
> #1
>
>>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of
>
> MN-100, MN-500,
>
>>or MN-700 #2
>>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of
>
> MN-100, MN-500,
>
>>or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>>
>>Make sure all MN-100s & MN-500s are running the latest
>
> firmware 1.11.017
>
>>Make sure all MN-700s are running the latest firmware
>
> 2.01.02.0590
>
>>Now lets look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-
>
> 700:
>
>>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
>>router mode
>>LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
>>some SSID (if wireless)
>>some WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>>channel 6 (if wireless)
>>
>>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #2
>>bridge mode
>>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP
>
> range
>
>>same SSID (if wireless)
>>same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>>channel 1 (if wireless)
>>
>>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>>bridge mode
>>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP
>
> range
>
>>same SSID (if wireless)
>>same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
>>channel 11 (if wireless)
>>
>>
>>If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (if using the
>
> MN-700) the
>
>>same for all base stations, people will be able to move
>
> between
>
>>locations and get a connection.
>>
>>If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless
>
> routers you will
>
>>have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch
>
> between wireless
>
>>networks.
>>
>>You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base
>
> stations to
>
>>prevent interference.
>>
>>Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between
>
> them as 1, 6,
>
>>& 11 do.
>>
>>Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping
>
> channels.
>
>>There are more combinations if you only need two channels.
>>
>>Paul wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in
>
> my
>
>>>2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
>>>larger house with three floors.
>>>
>>>Assuming that the single base station won't be
>
> sufficient
>
>>>to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
>>>(which I would presume is very likely), can someone
>
> tell
>
>>>me what my options are for extending the range of my
>>>network? What hardware do I need to purchase?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>Paul
>>
>>.
>>
September 14, 2004 8:13:02 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

The only way to extend the range is either use an ethernet cable as I
mentioned of something like the MN-740 to bridge the wireless into a
wired connection so that the next router can connect to the previous router.

rdroadrash@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Same problem here with my MN-700. I get an excellent
> signal in half of the house...the other half none at all.
> My house is one story and about 80 feet long. I tried a D-
> link signal extender, but had compatibility issues and
> sent it back. I was actually thinking about sending my
> msft stuff back for the money back guarantee and buying
> Netgear. Any ideas?
>
> Rick
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I currently have an MN-500 network that works great in my
>>2 bedroom apartment, but I am soon moving into a much
>>larger house with three floors.
>>
>>Assuming that the single base station won't be sufficient
>>to provide high-throughput access throughout the house
>>(which I would presume is very likely), can someone tell
>>me what my options are for extending the range of my
>>network? What hardware do I need to purchase?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Paul
>>.
>>
!