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I know that this isn't new technology and that other countries have it but the FCC is testing it in the USA now.

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Broadband over Power Line (BPL) is a technology that allows Internet data to be transmitted over utility power lines. (BPL is also sometimes called Power-line Communications or PLC.) In order to make use of BPL, subscribers use neither a phone, cable or a satellite connection. Instead, a subscriber installs a modem that plugs into an ordinary wall outlet and pays a subscription fee similar to those paid for other types of Internet service.

It seems that the main drawback is that currently it causes interference in a large part of the radio spectrum.

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Yes you are right I was talking about Nortel Networks testing this system out in Mexico city back in 2000.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

How fast is the technology? I mean is a power line like a an OC 48 or 192 pipe? I'm a little hung over and not interested in reading today.

It would not surprise me if the FCC outlaws this technology. This whole anti-terrorist [-peep-] is starting to get on my nerves. We are losing more of our rights because of this whole scare. I saw on 60 minutes that people will no longer be able to take photos in NY's subways. What kind of [-peep-] is that? Hell, there are digital cameras in phones now. Have fun enforcing that ban. Jackasses!!!

Reply to bjpatrick

Yes Sod I know that it's been around in the USA for quite some time in the form of control of appliances and transfer from appliance to appliance (stereo transfer to speakers via home wiring). However there is new life being given to consideration of Internet over electric power lines into the home.
This is being opposed by amateur radio operators and shortwave radio listeners because of the interference caused to the radio spectrum.
I would like to see more competition by the Internet providers and adding competition by a utility that is already connected to every household in the country would greatly increase the current competition.However I do not want to see this done at the expense of current users of the radio frequencies.
I would think that with our current level of technology that their must be a simple means of achieving this without frequency interference.

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Reply to russell

Faster then T3 dude but probably not as reliable.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

Russ I worked on components for that [-peep-] in the Nortel Labs back in 1998 to the present ?

I know all about it from the send receive modules and the mux and drivers + clocks that run it.

The only drawback is a fibre optic line can carry 25 thousand send&receive signals at the same time and you can have 25 thousand each of those in a trunk line and its all shielded and of course they run that across the Earths Oceans.

If it was in military use over direct dedicated lines they could send TERA WATTS of data to pun a new term.

In civilian use they would need multiple frequency's all traveling down the line at the same time to provide many signals at the same time.

This is where the none shielded power grid would practically if not stop the functioning of Police, Fire and ham radio operations.

There are only so many channels available for radio communication at frequencies that would not fry human and animal life at different power levels.

Hydro lines already have come under fire for nuking the residents that live under the high tension lines.

This new data science over the hydro systems is going to be another few years away if not impossible because of the other damage it will cause directly to already used items such as simple AM/FM radio reception.

The only other way is to find a way to shield the High tension wires without having to physically change them with hardware that would break down almost instantly.

A dead zone will have to be surrounding the transmission lines perhaps separate transmitters that are place along the high tension line routes that reverse jam the bleed off.

So you might see Towers and Telephone poles with smaller towers located along the route and all they do is cloak out the bleed off signals.

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Reply to SoDNighthawk

Without chasing links I understand that the band width available by this method would be tremendous.

I chased links and it is already being done in Virginia.

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The City of Manassas, Virginia, is deploying broadband over power lines using equipment provided by Main.net. Manassas residents and businesses will soon be the first in the U.S. to purchase broadband Internet access over city power lines.

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<A HREF="http://www.nelsoncounty.com/business/stories/storyReader$46" target="_new">ANOTHER LINK about Va. PLC</A>

In this article written in 2003 no less it seems that the interference issue may have been resolved.

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Field trials of PLC technologies carried out during the last 2 years in Europe (Spain, Italy, Germany), North America, South America (Chile, Brazil) and Asia (Singapore) have shown that interference with radio users is no longer a problem for PLC

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Reply to russell

At this point, I dont care where broadband signal should be transmitted...

I just want to have broadband in my area..

So, Cogeco, Videotron, Sympatico and all those who claim to have the best in technology ...

[mad)CAN YOU HAVE YOUR FU&?*$G TRUCKS OVER HERE ANS START INSTALLING WHAT IT TAKES????

I'm tired of waiting.... 56k dial up modem are no more the way to go, if you want to know!!!

Sig space for rent. make your offer.

Reply to pat

My brother is in the same boat.
He can't get high speed Internet in the rural area he lives and has begged the phone company to provide it.
Maybe this will be the solution to providing rural high speed Internet.

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