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I wont be upgrading for a long time... But this stuff looks so promising.

To me computer upgrades come non stop, but at certain points in time there are "plateau" breakthroughs.

AMD k6 to Athlon XP was one of them. XP to Barton was not. Barton to A64 yes. A64 to skt 939 dual DDR A64, no. But with this new A64 4000+ with its new technologies (identical to the FX series) matched with these new pci express and SLi boards, to me, is one of those breakthough points.

I just found these two Anandtech articles interesting. Maybe you will, I found the Nforce4 article interesting because is it saying Nforce4, with PCI-ex and SLi will be making it to Socket 754 also??

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] i=2249&p=1

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] i=2248&p=1

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Unless you have a PCIe FX card, or the money for a SLI setup, there's no reason to get a nf4 board because the preformance is nearly the same to the nf3s. There are some other features that could interest some ppl (2 independent SATA controllers, etc) but for the most part it's not a 'preformance' leap like some ppl may have hoped for. Like the Anandtech article says, it's an Evolution, not a Revolution. Great chipset though, those nf series chipsets are kicking some major ass for the A64 chips.

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Yup. Another great and/or odd thing is that part about AMD now having 5, yes 5, chips rated at 2.4ghz. This shows how we've reached a maximum in clock speed and the internal technologies are becoming more important.

Kudos to getting the FX-55 up to 2.6ghz though.

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the FX-55 was sort of the 'nail in the coffin' for Intel. This is kind of like AMDs revenge for what Intel did with the Northwoods heh

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like many others, ive been waiting a VERY long time for SLI.
I'm buying the first 4000+ I can get my hands on, a NF4 SLI board and two 6800GTs.

I dont upgrade often, and ive sat and watched my system get crushed by Doom3 and every other release.. and had to read all the articles on how fast the A64 is and so on..

i think the time is right for those who have waited to get the bone crushing system that is the A64/SLI.

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ehh if you are going to splash that much money on a new system, just add 100 more and get fx55 much much better than 4000+.

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Or FX53, which has unlocked multiplier

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i thought about that. i will prob get the fx55 since the price is so close.

i cant wait till that stuff is released. it IS a whole lot of money, but ive been waiting so long.. since the pally release for a new PC.

an fx55/nf4/sli GTs will be a total Intel/ATI crushing machine for quite some time.

i hate intel and ati. their stuff is total junk right now compared to the almighty AMD/NV combo, no SLI (on either the motherboards or the video cards), no cool n quiet, no 3.0 shaders, the list goes on.

they dont have anything that will touch this class of stuff for a very long time, esp with SLI from here on out from Nvidia.

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"i hate intel and ati. their stuff is total junk right now compared "

Ive always respected Intel... Just recently however I see they are no longer kings of development.

For Ati, I ve always hated them... Horrible products, horrible driver support, the worst.

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i hate intel and ati. their stuff is total junk right now compared to the almighty AMD/NV combo, no SLI (on either the motherboards or the video cards), no cool n quiet, no 3.0 shaders, the list goes on.



Nothing wrong with Intel... they're not currently the best performers game-wise, but there's nothing wrong with them.

Nothing wrong with ATi either. I have a 9700 Pro that has served me well for the last 2.5 years. I haven't had a driver problem yet. Incidentally... since you're so gung-ho on nV and SLI... it might interest you to know that a single Radeon X800 XT was able to top TWO nV 6800GTs in SLI. Sure, it was overclocked, but it's kinda sad that one GPU beats two supposedly more powerful GPUs, don't you think?

Must be nice to have that kind of cash... wish I could throw away $1000 + just for a couple of vid cards... let alone over $1000 just for the CPU. I bought an entire computer for what you'll be paying for those 3 things alone.

Now, you're free to disagree with me, but I hate it when someone comes along spewing how something is complete junk when nothing could be further from the truth. A little slower in performance? Sure. Junk? Hardly.

(Oh and Alienware's solution allows any combination of vid cards to work together... including one nVidia card and one ATi card... so ATi could do it if they so desired)

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1 - Hate brand names = primitive and biased choice of action.

2 - Buying the best performing and best featured piece of hardware for a reasonable amount of cache = undisputed choice of action.

Does the second choice actually tend towards a company?... I'm afraid not... :eek:

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Although ATI is definately my brand of the moment.. i think some of these games with the Nvidia logo's are being optimized for Nvidia. Almost like a conspiracy. So then i have to wait a day or two to be able to run the game faster than it's counterpart.

Somewhat pisses me off, it's almost like some of these companies don't even beta test their games anymore either.. glitchy as all hell and how could their game not run a amd/nf7 with 9800pro setup.. it's definately a very common setup nowadays. (as in the gaming market)

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They are not optimized for nvidia.....nvidia paid them to put the logo...

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"Although ATI is definately my brand of the moment.. i think some of these games with the Nvidia logo's are being optimized for Nvidia. Almost like a conspiracy."

Uhm, no. If youre a game maker and there is one video company insanely better and more efficient than the other, wouldn't it be in your best interests to pair up with them?

Uhm. Yes.

And the people dumb enough to buy the lesser company's products will suffer, maybe teaching them a lesson to wise up next time.

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True. Games with nVidia logo may play equally well in ATI cards

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I just found these two Anandtech articles interesting. Maybe you will, I found the Nforce4 article interesting because is it saying Nforce4, with PCI-ex and SLi will be making it to Socket 754 also??


Yes, nForce 4 will be used for socket 754 too. Mainly for the cheaper Sempron systems.

One feature you forgot to mention is that it should support dual-core processors. Since the memory controller is inside the CPU, there are only minor changes required to the chipset to support dual-core. I'm not 100% sure, but nForce 4 would be one of the first to support it.

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